Parking Grantham

Travelgall

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#1
On a two week CMS course later this year. No Blow me up bus as I'm on my own from my unit. Considering I'll be carrying everything that has ever been issued to me I would prefer to drive rather than catching a train from London. Is there parking available for recruits?
 

wedge_cadman

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#2
There is parking available on the square if you are at PWoG Barracks
 

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my apologies i should have been more specific..that was the area i was referring to
 
#5
Loads of available parking - just make sure you have a pass and park in the right place (ask for directions, and then directions to where you have to report).

Good luck!
 
#6
You're taking your own transport?.....that's a whole can of worms, not the least being what happens if you break a limb and get RTU'd? how do you get back to your unit? how does your car? unless it's been authorised you wont be able to claim the cost of travelling back either, there is also something about business insurance as well.
 
#7
Why is your unit not providing transport?
 
#8
Perhaps, like me, Travelgall lives closer to the course than to her unit?

Never liked the idea of driving 70-odd miles to my Sqn, hang about for two hours while someone sorts out an appropriately over-sized vehicle to then transport me 100 miles the opposite way (passing my house of course) abandon me and then drive 100 miles back, only to repeat the above a few days later in reverse.

Pay me 60 miles or drive 400 miles in a 16-seater and pay me 140 miles- guess which one my Boss thinks is the best idea?
 
#9
Don't park on the square next to reception as the RSM tends to get a little bit upset. There's a good handful of spaces behind reception and then drop your car at the top car park next to the football pitches, easy to spot really, just look for the Regular Staff's caravan club park !
 
#10
You will get issued with a pass at the guardroom and given directions as to where to park, which as stated already is the top end of the camp, enjoy the hot-cold-hot-cold showers. I was there in July when a CMS course was on and loads of them had their own cars.
 

Travelgall

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#11
Why is your unit not providing transport?
Because I'll be the only one from my unit on my course. They'll give me a travel warrant for the train, but since I'll be carrying my life in two massive Bergans and a black bag I'd rather not have the ball ache of lugging it through London. I'd rather stick it into the boot and drive to Grantham. I can use it to lock all my dirty kit to hide it from room inspections. It also means I can pop smoke 30 nano seconds after "PARADE DISMISSED".
 
#12
Because I'll be the only one from my unit on my course. They'll give me a travel warrant for the train, but since I'll be carrying my life in two massive Bergans and a black bag I'd rather not have the ball ache of lugging it through London. I'd rather stick it into the boot and drive to Grantham. I can use it to lock all my dirty kit to hide it from room inspections. It also means I can pop smoke 30 nano seconds after "PARADE DISMISSED".
Then all other things being equal they ought to provide you with a hire car, which you could collect from your nearest TA centre and have collected from you the morning after you sign in. Another would arrive the afternoon before you're due to pass out.

HOWEVER: the policies are, and these come straight down from ARTD/ITG, that SuTs should not self-drive for exactly the reasons outlined above by Boxy in respect of injury and RTU, and because if you are RTU'd for whatever reason you automatically go onto the 'at-risk register' for self-harm and you should not then be putting your DS in a position of having to hand you your car keys when you're a potential suicide.

It might well turn out differently at 5 Regt, but if you turned up in your own transport to start a TSC course with my unit, you'd have a fair to middling chance of going home the same way before the start of the course.
 
#13
If I was you I would "ask your PSI", if you can use your own transport. If you get an OK from him then there is no come back to you and you won't end up self harming
 
#14
3 of us from my squadron went in two of our own vehicles. No problems what so ever. Didn't cause any issues and no one said anything to us and we weren't the only ones.

Stop being all doom and gloom guys!!
 

Travelgall

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#15
Jeez fas et gloria, Self Harm. I'm sure you're right and some Health and Safety directive from ARTG covers this, but what Rocket Surgeon thought that one up? I want to pass, I'll work for it but I'm not Nepalese. If you want I'll swear an affidavit that I'll think happy thoughts about the bundles of cash I earn as a banker and the shag I'll get earlier than I thought when I get home. I'll also get the Platoon Sergeant to give me a big morale boosting hug and say "there there" before he gives me the keys. It's not as if its a one shot deal. I can retake the course.

Re being biffed, I reckon my RAC membership will cover that. Besides if its an injury on Army property don't the Army have to look after me until its repaired? Which means my car stays there until I'm capable of driving it. Or at least it was last time I did all this as a Regular. Bloke I knew with a Fabloned Biff Chit had been cutting around Lucknow Platoon for 2 years.
 
#16
I went to Grantham in the past using own transport, parking no problem...did actually get RTU'd day 4 due to injury but not serious enough to stop me driving 4 hours back home...sometimes your Unit will arrange a hire car for you (normally if more than one travelling from your unit) as said above...check with PSI and have a backup plan for someone in your unit or relative/mate to collect car etc.

Best Grub I had in ages too...no doubt thats all changed with Pay as U Dine Malarky!
 
#17
Your unit should provide you with transport and take you to Grantham. Surely they will want to ensure you arrive with all the correct kit and paperwork, and that is why your unit is asked to provide a unit shepherd to escort you as well. You are just as likely to be RTU for not having all your paperwork in order or not passing the in tests as being injured. If there is someone from your unit with you and you are missing some kit or docs, they can go back and get it, no matter how long it takes, at least you get to stay on the course. However, it is up to you to pass the in tests.
At ITC(C), TA units are now being required to send a PSI as the unit shepherd for TA CIC, from what I hear, it is working.
 

wedge_cadman

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#18
Best Grub I had in ages too...no doubt thats all changed with Pay as U Dine Malarky!
you got that right, the food is appalling, I was there with an ex masterchef. For a unit that teaches young chefs you would have thought the cookhouse would have been a showcase, but no the civvy caterers couldn't give a ****.. well you pays peanuts you get monkeys.

sorry off topic, have a good course Travelgall
 
#19
Ya see, this is what really bugs me, ITG give us all these policies and the RTCs seem to be the only people who take heed.They should enforce them and reprimand the offending units.
 
#20
Ya see, this is what really bugs me, ITG give us all these policies and the RTCs seem to be the only people who take heed.They should enforce them and reprimand the offending units.
Trouble is, there is no joined up system in place, no single administrative entity in charge. There's no effective way that the RTC can lean on units/capbadges. There are also - despite the efforts of a lot of people - real issues with communication. Then there's the current financial climate, units are under extreme pressure to cut costs and spending money on things they perceive as unnecessary isn't going to happen. There is no extra budget to cover extra activities associated with RTCs.

Compare to the regs - they never have these problems because reg recruits never appear on unit books until they pop out of the training pipeline. They have a clear admin structure, properly funded.

Let's face it, the switch to RTCs from unit training was unfunded, lacked direction and has never been properly staffed. It only worked at all thanks to a lot of hard work by usually overlooked soldiers.
 
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