Paras ready to jump on Taliban as drug war looms

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Paras ready to jump on Taliban as drug war looms
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BRITISH defence chiefs have put a battalion of paratroopers on standby to jump into Afghanistan, amid fears of heavy fighting with the Taliban this winter as the government in Kabul tries to eradicate opium poppy growing.

If the 600 troops carry out an airborne landing it will be the first time that British paratroopers have jumped into action since Suez 50 years ago.

The Airborne Task Force, a role currently filled by 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, is ready to fly to Afghanistan within 12 hours and be on the ground within 24 hours, senior defence sources said
 
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lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Hardly counts as the airborne insertion of a unit into combat though, does it?
 

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sheldrake said:
lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Hardly counts as the airborne insertion of a unit into combat though, does it?
Your point being??
 
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BRITISH defence chiefs have put a battalion of paratroopers on standby to jump into Afghanistan, amid fears of heavy fighting with the Taliban this winter as the government in Kabul tries to eradicate opium poppy growing.
Full story here

Yeah right. Which numpty thought of this one!
 
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WTF. Why do they need them to jump? Whats wrong with getting them there normally?.

But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
 
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Stooge said:
WTF. Why do they need them to jump? Whats wrong with getting them there normally?.

But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
I reckon the (completely unnecessary) jump is just a bit of propaganda for Phoney Tony and his bunch of crooks. I bet all the journos who aren't allowed anywhere near the troops will suddenly be able to magically deploy to catch everything on film in glorious colour for the folks back home.

Re buying the crop: this is something I (along with a few others) have been advocating from the get-go.

MsG
 
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quote - 'The Airborne Task Force, a role currently filled by 2nd Battalion, the Parachute Regiment, is ready to fly to Afghanistan within 12 hours and be on the ground within 24 hours'

but what will actually happen, is they will get to Brize or Lyneham, then spend at least 24 hours gotting f###ed around between the terminal, gateway hotel, mess (if they are lucky) & para hanger, whilst us crabs try to find enough hercs to do the task. at best then they will have to get vc10 or tristar to Kandahar then whatever in-thearta transport is available.
crab-air ain't got enough servicable hercs for this type of operation anymore.
 
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press_it said:
but what will actually happen, is they will get to Brize or Lyneham, then spend at least 24 hours getting f###ed around between the terminal, gateway hotel, mess (if they are lucky) & para hanger,

:lol:
 
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Random_Task said:
(playing devils advocate for a moment) Surely if they bought opium stocks, it sets a precedent? For example, should we do the same for countries in South America?
Why not? Did you see that report on test swabs taken from the conveniently placed marble shelves in the House of Commons toilets? Charlie is in the House big time and NO media bod could survive a regular drug testing regime from Editors downwards.

Do the deal and sell to the MP’s and Govt. staff at wholesale prices instead of another pay rise.
 
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Random_Task said:
Stooge said:
WTF. Why do they need them to jump? Whats wrong with getting them there normally?.

But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
(playing devils advocate for a moment) Surely if they bought opium stocks, it sets a precedent? For example, should we do the same for countries in South America?
Why not? And since when has any sort of equality ever existed in world trade?

It's not a new idea though. In the mid-80s, Kun Sa, warlord of the Golden Triangle on the Thai/Burmese border offered to flog the whole crop to the Septics for $50 million. The Septics declined, since they were content to run around in the jungle playing soldiers and blowing up disused sugar-kitchens, then declaring they were winning the "War on Drugs".

In the REAL world it would happen in a heartbeat. Shame, eh?

MsG
 
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Random_Task said:
It would be nice to see Fleet Street going through cold turkey!
Not when they are going through a pro military phase it wouldn't!

Random_Task said:
I thought Charlie was down the pub big time?
mmmmm yes quite, I don't actually think Kennedy is in the frame on the gak fuel front but many many others are.
 
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Bugsy7 said:
Random_Task said:
Stooge said:
WTF. Why do they need them to jump? Whats wrong with getting them there normally?.

But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
(playing devils advocate for a moment) Surely if they bought opium stocks, it sets a precedent? For example, should we do the same for countries in South America?
Why not? And since when has any sort of equality ever existed in world trade?

It's not a new idea though. In the mid-80s, Kun Sa, warlord of the Golden Triangle on the Thai/Burmese border offered to flog the whole crop to the Septics for $50 million. The Septics declined, since they were content to run around in the jungle playing soldiers and blowing up disused sugar-kitchens, then declaring they were winning the "War on Drugs".

In the REAL world it would happen in a heartbeat. Shame, eh?

MsG
It's certainly food for thought!

Have a peek at this sobering link

Couple of interesting articles at the bottom of the page, link
 
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Stooge said:
But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
Because Glaxo smith Kline owns its own poppy fields etc for "legal" production. And if the afghan crop was released onto the market GSK would lose a fortune through the wholesale price of legal poppies dropping through the floor. This will not be allowed to happen because:

A: The GSK heirarchy wield a huge amount of influence through being fabulously wealthy and inevitably play golf at the right clubs/ give money to all the right political parties/ etc

B: The head of GSK can suddenly decide to raise the price of drugs and feck over the NHS at a stroke

C: It would encourage future deals of the same sort in other parts of the globe.

Basically Britiain is corrupt, just only at the highest levels.
 
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wessex_warrior said:
Stooge said:
But honestly why do we need to eradicate the opium poppies? Britain has a natinal shortage of dia-morphine (which is actually heroin by a different name.) Currently it's thought that heroin is actually cheaper on the street than dia-morphine (according to my sister who is a medic). Why can't we just buy straight from the Afghanis and kill two birds with one stone?
Because Glaxo smith Kline owns its own poppy fields etc for "legal" production. And if the afghan crop was released onto the market GSK would lose a fortune through the wholesale price of legal poppies dropping through the floor. This will not be allowed to happen because:

A: The GSK heirarchy wield a huge amount of influence through being fabulously wealthy and inevitably play golf at the right clubs/ give money to all the right political parties/ etc

B: The head of GSK can suddenly decide to raise the price of drugs and feck over the NHS at a stroke

C: It would encourage future deals of the same sort in other parts of the globe.

Basically Britiain is corrupt, just only at the highest levels.
GSK is but one of the companies - others are HQ'd on the other side of the Pond and sure as hell they wouldn't want their quasi-monopoly on opiates disturbed, would they!
 
#19
lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Correct. however the last operational jump by the Para Reg was During OP GRANBY when 1x British Paratrooper jumped with the septic 101st earning (i think) an MBE and a yank Bronze star..

Also

sheldrake said:
lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Hardly counts as the airborne insertion of a unit into combat though, does it?

Yes it does actually.
 
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dancing_colonel1 said:
lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Correct. however the last operational jump by the Para Reg was During OP GRANBY when 1x British Paratrooper jumped with the septic 101st earning (i think) an MBE and a yank Bronze star..

Also

sheldrake said:
lsquared said:
A single paratrooper jumped into action in the Falklands. He took over 2 PARA from the late Lt Col H Jones VC
Hardly counts as the airborne insertion of a unit into combat though, does it?

Yes it does actually.
One man doing a water jump into the FI counts as a unit jump?

By fuck he must have been nails that fella.
 

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