Parachuting as opposed to Para Shooting

#1
Arrse'rs

i need a new hobby as biking is now out the window but danger element is required...

so tell me about flinging yourself out of a serviceable airframe.

how do you get into it (now i am outside the forces), what kit do you need and how much does it all cost?

is it worth it?

Rincewind
 
#2
Rincewind said:
Arrse'rs

i need a new hobby as biking is now out the window but danger element is required...

so tell me about flinging yourself out of a serviceable airframe.

how do you get into it (now i am outside the forces), what kit do you need and how much does it all cost?

is it worth it?

Rincewind
I did it for many years (as my Avtar suggests). In my day you had to do long basic courses then progress through static line, to short free fall before the complicated stuff over many jumps. Nowadays the accelerated free fall scheme does exactly what it says on the tin and gets you qualifed to jump sport canopies very quickly - but it is expensive.

I would suggest you go for a tandem jump (strapped to an instructor) to get a taste for it; you will scream blue murder, love it and want to do more or you will hate it.

Over time it is quite pricey and you tend to spend your spare moments hanging around DZs for a long time. One of the reasons I stopped doing it was because it wasn't family friendly and I couldn't justify coming off exercises and ops then going away for weekends to go skydiving - but it is a great sport with some top people (you also get your fair share of walts etc but its the same with any hobby).

Good luck

MB
 
#3
thanks, i am a big guy - 17 stone and 6'2" - can i still try tandem?

is there a national website for these nutters?

Rincewind
 
#4
#6
Rincewind
You can also do military style jumps (round canopy, static line, Standup exits,with or without weapons containers etc 2000ft ) run by some ex paras
PM if your interested
 
#7
scousemech said:
Rincewind
You can also do military style jumps (round canopy, static line, Standup exits,with or without weapons containers etc 2000ft ) run by some ex paras
PM if your interested
Why the feck would you want to do that? At 2k you get to drift RIGHT off-course - you might as well strap 100lb of scrap metal to your leg, drink a bottle of Bells, stand up for 30 minutes in the dark, spin round a broom handle 100 times and and jump out of a second story window. For the added realism of a bde jump, get a couple of similarly kitted out gurhkas to jump out of adjacent windows at the same time to see if they can land on you. Then get your wife to push a pallet of bricks off the roof above you to simulate crab-air getting their grids wrong and thinking you're the heavy DZ.

Pay for that? Feck off.

Rincewind - skydiving is an amazing sport but it demands total commitment - ie sitting on DZs for days waiting for the wind to drop or clouds to part. It eats leave and free-time whole. If you're single it's fantastic as the social life comes with the package - and a phenominal number of young nubile women skydive. If you're married then she needs to be very understanding - as in 'I can fill my time fecking my spanish Salsa dancing instructor while you skydive' understanding
 
#8
For the best of both worlds, you can pick up your Dutch para wings jumping static-line from an old Antonov, and then progress to sport skydiving.

www.paracentrumtexel.nl

Edited to add: You may have to lay off the Ginsters though, as max weight is 100kg which puts you about 8kg over the limit. :wink:
 
#9
#10
If you do your tandem, enjoy it and want to carry on, think about taking a course run by BPA instructors overseas. You will get a holiday in Spain / Portugal / the US out of it and as the weather is better you can crack on and get your initial training out of the way, and a few consolidation jumps as well. The BPA may get a slagging off for being a bit conservative and fuddy duddy, but having seen the results of the alternative systems in place here in the US, British is best.

If you go the overseas route choose an instructor / course that can introduce you to a DZ or two back in the UK so you can carry on jumping / getting coaching with people you know.

For the costs of gear have a butchers at Dropzone.com. The things that are essential are a main container, reserve and main parachutes, jumpsuit, helmet, altimeter and as a low number jumper in the UK an AAD - how much you pay depends on how 'fashionable' you want to be but expect to shell out several thousand pounds over and above the cost of your course. There is no need to buy straight away, you can hire kit easily enough at DZ's so you can experiment a bit to see what you like.

Is it worth it - it is very different buzz to cutting through traffic on a motorbike, but just as reward - I have been jumping for 13 years and still love it.
 
#11
RTFQ said:
scousemech said:
Rincewind
You can also do military style jumps (round canopy, static line, Standup exits,with or without weapons containers etc 2000ft ) run by some ex paras
PM if your interested
Why the feck would you want to do that? At 2k you get to drift RIGHT off-course - you might as well strap 100lb of scrap metal to your leg, drink a bottle of Bells, stand up for 30 minutes in the dark, spin round a broom handle 100 times and and jump out of a second story window. For the added realism of a bde jump, get a couple of similarly kitted out gurhkas to jump out of adjacent windows at the same time to see if they can land on you. Then get your wife to push a pallet of bricks off the roof above you to simulate crab-air getting their grids wrong and thinking you're the heavy DZ.

Pay for that? Feck off.

Rincewind - skydiving is an amazing sport but it demands total commitment - ie sitting on DZs for days waiting for the wind to drop or clouds to part. It eats leave and free-time whole. If you're single it's fantastic as the social life comes with the package - and a phenominal number of young nubile women skydive. If you're married then she needs to be very understanding - as in 'I can fill my time fecking my spanish Salsa dancing instructor while you skydive' understanding
Ok RTFQ thanks for the honnest answer

1st - i am a salad dodger - so i think i will have to shed some weight before i can apply
2nd - witht he costs involved i think i need to wait until my insurance money comes through in approx 12 months
3rd - i can wear wings on my RN 1s :)

(although i dint understand this weight thing - when soldiers jump with like 90Kg of kit plus body weight = how can there be a limit?)

Rincewind
 
#12
expat said:
Is it worth it - it is very different buzz to cutting through traffic on a motorbike, but just as reward - I have been jumping for 13 years and still love it.
Magic - more intel i was after. and you my septic shagging friend have answered it.

Rincewind
 
#13
Rincewind said:
Ok RTFQ thanks for the honnest answer

1st - i am a salad dodger - so i think i will have to shed some weight before i can apply
2nd - witht he costs involved i think i need to wait until my insurance money comes through in approx 12 months
3rd - i can wear wings on my RN 1s :)

(although i dint understand this weight thing - when soldiers jump with like 90Kg of kit plus body weight = how can there be a limit?)

Rincewind
Don't get me wrong mate - I'm not trying to put you off at all, it's just that skydiving is a 'pastime' in the same way as biking - you live and breathe it and commit to it if you want to be good.

Some big feckers skydive - but you need to be fit and supple.

It's about £250 for a Tandem with a gucci video. No-one will mind if you just rock up to a DZ on a saturday morning and ask to talk to one of the AFF/WARP instructors about entering the sport. You can watch some landings, see some videos, chat to some of the jumpers and students and see if you like the sound of it. There'll be eye candy too. How well they treat you will also be a good indication of how good the DZ is - if they're friendly and willing to answer all your questions honestly then it'll probably be a good DZ. If you need help finding your nearest one then PM me.
 
#14
Rince,

Military parachutists dont have to land with their equipment container still attached to them, it is unclipped from the harness and lowered on a line prior to landing. Sadly, your "fuel tank for a sex machine" is permanantly attached, and could well feck you up when you make contact with terra firma.
 
#15
Rincewind said:
thanks, i am a big guy - 17 stone and 6'2" - can i still try tandem?

is there a national website for these nutters?

Rincewind
If you can find a skinny midget as a Tandem master you might be okay, but even if you do and enjoy the experience you are going to have to shed a few (okay a lot) pounds before a Service centre is going to put you on a course.
 
#16
The weight thing determines how fast you hit the ground. Generally the more sq ft of canopy above your head, the slower you hit the ground. Military jumps are made with much larger canopies so you can suspend more weight underneath them.

The canopies / comtainers are also only tested to maximum weights and maximum airspeeds. More weight or more airspeed increases the stresses on the equipment during deployment and increases the chances of something failing (generally not helpful).

As a student jumper they will probably make you jump a canopy about 120% of your weight (in lbs) - so if you are 200lbs, a 240sq ft canopy - though that decision is down to your instructor. This is to let you learn to control and land the canopy safely. As you get more experience this ratio can be reduced, but this means the canopy will fly faster and if you mess up the landing you are more likely to injure yourself.
 
#17
sandmanfez said:
Rince,

Military parachutists dont have to land with their equipment container still attached to them, it is unclipped from the harness and lowered on a line prior to landing. Sadly, your "fuel tank for a sex machine" is permanantly attached, and could well feck you up when you make contact with terra firma.
What he means is that you frantically struggle to unhook these two latches - known by RTFQ as Feck Off Bas.tard Hooks - which then release your container which falls to earth before being stopped by a very un-bungey-like rope, causing your leg harnesses to crush your testicles like a butch german woman with dockers on. Trouble is, the hooks are made by the same people who made the rest of your military kit - ie blind fingerless asians on their respective country's minimum wage - and they don't always work. Oh how we used to giggle all the way to the deck when that happened.

The only thing good, or glamorous, about military parachuting is larging it in the bar and getting blowjobs off potential officers.
 
#18
Plant-Pilot said:
Rincewind said:
thanks, i am a big guy - 17 stone and 6'2" - can i still try tandem?

is there a national website for these nutters?

Rincewind
If you can find a skinny midget as a Tandem master you might be okay, but even if you do and enjoy the experience you are going to have to shed a few (okay a lot) pounds before a Service centre is going to put you on a course.



Texel weight restriction 95kg 14 stone 10 pounds
 
#19
RTFQ said:
The only thing good, or glamorous, about military parachuting is larging it in the bar and getting blowjobs off potential officers.
What, and thats not enough of an incentive? :D
 
#20
sandmanfez said:
RTFQ said:
The only thing good, or glamorous, about military parachuting is larging it in the bar and getting blowjobs off potential officers.
What, and thats not enough of an incentive? :D
Well once again, sadly - the only thing good, or glamorous, about getting blowjobs off potential officers is larging it in the bar. :cry:
 

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