para helmets

#1
what is the black band that i keep seeing around para helmets, is it issued or is it just the inner tube from a bike tyre or something?
 

atko

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#5
top of an NBC boot.

Well if you wear scrim over your helmet, you will need such band to keep it in place. It also stops the cover being pulled off and looks ally. Its all about the look you see.
 
#6
atko said:
Well if you wear scrim over your helmet, you will need such band to keep it in place.
The scrim on my helmet is held pretty securely by being tucked under the cover and tightening the drawstring. I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
 
#7
A Sapper type once told me that the band was to enable the attachment of hayricks for demolitions and was carried on the helmet for convenience. Don’t know if there is any truth in the story or if he realised that me being such a websters bloke was game for a big fat Wah!
 
#8
gorilla said:
what is the black band that i keep seeing around para helmets, is it issued or is it just the inner tube from a bike tyre or something?
Correct..

Usually worn to stop the helmet cover being worn at the base when the helmet is taken off and placed on the ground.

Also keeps the cover in place when you attach cam and stuff

Of late though has become some sort of fashion statement
 
#9
I got advised to put it on to stop it tearing at the bottom when it gets placed on the ground or when your fighting in someones house and your scraping against walls....
 
#10
On the subject of cutting up IPE, also read on here about cuffs cut off from NBC gloves as gaiters, roll up when crossing river etc, roll down to boot top when not needed. Soon to be trialled in a winter SENTA setting by Gook no doubt (wot no Mekong Delta?)...
 
#11
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
Well if you wear scrim over your helmet, you will need such band to keep it in place.
The scrim on my helmet is held pretty securely by being tucked under the cover and tightening the drawstring. I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
same here, unfortunately, as others have sid, after a few years of banging it about on the ground and on various concrete parts of SENTA, there are small rips and holes over the base of the helmet. As yet I have'nt got any gucci landy inner tube as I really can't be arrsed.

.:M-F:.
 
#12
I can’t see the point.

1. Cover up the DPM which is good at breaking up the line of the bottom of the helmet.

2. Very good in a fire as you get melted rubber dripping down your face!

3. Protects the very expensive helmet cover! Why not hand it in to the CQMS and get a new one when it’s worn-out?
Owe can’t do that as the new one will look NEW!

Some kit is good because it is, other kit people like because they think it makes them look good.

DoE
 
#13
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
 
#14
Onetap said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
Onetap, please don't miss quote me, never mind a technical issue I'm sure.

You beat me to it re the C130 exit, anyway what so wrong it looking good whilst doing a good job. 'Check equipment' 'Check Ally look' '1 ok, 2 ok, 3 ok..............' 'red on!' you know the rest.
 
#15
Onetap said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
Magic! It's not just a field fashion statement, it's done for a purpose. What makes me laugh? The nuggets that think sticking black nasty just over the thread on their windproof smock, "its to protect the thread so that the button doesn't fall off." Is it really?
 
#16
It makes sense to me. Why lose your cover for the sake of some black nasty.

You see alot of guys wearing WW2 helmet nets over the top of their covers to make the helmet look like a WW2 one. It does break them up better and looks good on the fashion front.

Come we have all worn the green band and cats eye's -fack all use but looks good.

Just one other point -what is the use of putting elastic on the desert covers, what on earth are going to put in it?
 
#17
Bravo2nothing said:
Onetap said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
Magic! It's not just a field fashion statement, it's done for a purpose. What makes me laugh? The nuggets that think sticking black nasty just over the thread on their windproof smock, "its to protect the thread so that the button doesn't fall off." Is it really?
Yes it does. Cheap and cheerful way of doing it. Time taken to do it? Oooohhh about 5 mins. Prevents all the kit falling out and being called a twät at O-groups etc when you realised your DPM notebook cover containing that all important note book is somewhere behind you where you did the attack. All because a thread came undone. It is getting dark. What do you do? "Errrr guys, has anyone got a spare pencil and paper?"

I'd rather have the scathing looks of the uninformed non-believers as opposed to the former.

CS 95 buttons remove the need for tape so don't know what that is all about...
 
#18
tearsbeforebedtime said:
Bravo2nothing said:
Onetap said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
Magic! It's not just a field fashion statement, it's done for a purpose. What makes me laugh? The nuggets that think sticking black nasty just over the thread on their windproof smock, "its to protect the thread so that the button doesn't fall off." Is it really?
Yes it does. Cheap and cheerful way of doing it. Time taken to do it? Oooohhh about 5 mins. Prevents all the kit falling out and being called a twät at O-groups etc when you realised your DPM notebook cover containing that all important note book is somewhere behind you where you did the attack. All because a thread came undone. It is getting dark. What do you do? "Errrr guys, has anyone got a spare pencil and paper?"

I'd rather have the scathing looks of the uninformed non-believers as opposed to the former.

CS 95 buttons remove the need for tape so don't know what that is all about...
Fair one but my belief was the 'actual' reason for this practise was to reduce IR reflection from these button, in which case, the whole of the button has to be covered and not just the thread holding the botton on.
 
#19
Dunno.

Depends if you use the issue IRR green tape or the bodge job 'just keep the fücking button going walkies black nasty improvisation special'. Cut to size in almost perfect circles for the terminally bored of course! :D
 
#20
Onetap said:
Tartan_Terrier said:
atko said:
I've had it like that for nearly two years, and it hasn't fallen off yet.
Have you worn it whilst leaving an aircraft in those two years? A 140 mph wind is a severe test of the attachments of kit. A missing slice of inner tube is no great loss.
No I'm not airborne, the fastest wind it's been exposed to is about 60mph (open vehicle). No problems there though.



Even though you may be correct, I'd still rather avoid stretching rubber over my helmet. It's just not the same!
 

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