Panic theyre Islamic

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LE
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#1
I've just caught the end of Don't Panic I'm Islamic. Maybe the overall message of the program was positive, but the bit I saw did not reasure me at all. I've come away with the impression that a significant number of the Muslim 'community' is, at the very least, tolerant of Islamic inspired terrorism.

There was a lot of tosh about how they are angry and that justifies the only outlet they have to attract our attention.
 
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#2
I get p*ssed off at work daily......but I've never considered strapping a bomb to my chest and getting on a bus full of kids, nor have I ever considered kidnapping foreign aid workers and decapitating them in from of my handicam. I've never held a gathering of my mates in a street and had them all singing about killing muslims and how Jesus says that it's OK by him to do so, in fact the Holy Ghost bloody well demands it because he's got more virgins up there than you can shake a stick at and they're all whining at him 'cos they need sh*gging.

But then again, maybe that's just me.
 
#4
Biscuits_AB said:
I get p*ssed off at work daily......but I've never considered strapping a bomb to my chest and getting on a bus full of kids, nor have I ever considered kidnapping foreign aid workers and decapitating them in from of my handicam. I've never held a gathering of my mates in a street and had them all singing about killing muslims and how Jesus says that it's OK by him to do so, in fact the Holy Ghost bloody well demands it because he's got more virgins up there than you can shake a stick at and they're all whining at him 'cos they need sh*gging.
See...that's where you're going wrong :)
 
#5
Daft question, I seems to remember that male marters get the 70 wurgins but many of the marters have been female.
Zo do they get 69 young pups with big mouth pythons waiting on their plesure ?
john
PS I really do consider The Arabs I knew to have been full of sh1t.
 
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#6
Apprantly under new legislation Allah has had to find 70 lesbians. Equal Opportunities and all that.
 
#8
Caught the end of the program repeat of who seemed more appealing.
Typical muslem program some fat european convert in hijab whining about
drunks in slough .Cut to shot of saturday night crowd drunk,flashing,being sick
Then cut to ernest asian muslim "you dont have to drink to have fun" yeah right .
Sorry i find them boring, self righteoues , judgemental ,and intolerant just like every other beliver .Wear silly clothes practise your religion
more beer and bacon sarnies for the rest of us .
 

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#9
Glad to see it wasn't just me who thought panic was in order. There's also a nagging thing in the back of my head saying if the people on the program were suppossed to be the reasonable moderate muslims - what are the unreasoable one like?

Very strange program. It tended to confirm my prejudices.
 
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#10
Up until recently, I have had no axe to grind with any religion, but the whole 'holier than thou' shit that Islam puts out gets my goat. Who is a Muslim (or any other religous practitioner) to tell me that he is better than me because he prays several times a day and doesn't drink? I could always point out that I am the better person as I don't advocate blowing up buses full of shoppers or flying planes into multi stories.

How come we're getting this Islam thing shoved down out throats, when we are predominantly a Christian society and our religion is being denied to appease Muslims etc, through inane acts like removing crucifixes and bibles from buildings in case someone from another religion gets upset?

The recent QB award to the Ismalic leader was a nice gesture, despite the political motive behind it being oh so bloody obvious. Would he have got it had we not been in Iraq?


Why do I get the feeling that I am supposed to be ashamed of my Anglo-Saxon heritage and my Christianity and of our Colonial past. I am ashamed of none of it. In fact, having this sh*t rammed down my throat is having the reverse affect upon me and my tolerance is waining.

I appreciate that this has been a very simplistic view, but I'm f*cked off with the lot of it.
 
#11
if i ever was a gravedigger in muslim cementry i would make sure i would leave a strip of bacon on top of the coffin :twisted:

i have recently been to New York and visited Ground Zero it does make me sad to know all those people died and the site is now just an empty pit, all the while we are appeasing thses self rightous tosspots,why are they inisisting that it "our" fault ? they are to blame for their own conditions, they ghetto themselves not us, they live in Poverty and refuse to get a job instead prefring to live on Benefit while pissing on our country.

loada bollocks.

the Koran clearly states you have a duty of loyalty to your own country and obey the laws of the land you live in.
as per usual it is men who twist the name of religion to suit themselves.
 
#12
I also have changed. My old rule was that they could do as they wished so long as it did not involve me or mine. I have had just about enough of the 'love your muslim brother' and all p.c'ism in general. My resolve is to resist it - if someone challenges me over something I've said, I'll switch to full rude and brutal soldier mode straight away and challenge it. I shall make no secret of the fact that I have no Muslim brothers or sisters or colleagues or what. I would like to see more taking this attitude before we get swamped and politicised out of existance in the country I call home.
 
#13
The program confirmed my views on muslims.
 
#14
semper said:
if i ever was a gravedigger in muslim cementry i would make sure i would leave a strip of bacon on top of the coffin :twisted:

i have recently been to New York and visited Ground Zero it does make me sad to know all those people died and the site is now just an empty pit, all the while we are appeasing thses self rightous tosspots,why are they inisisting that it "our" fault ? they are to blame for their own conditions, they ghetto themselves not us, they live in Poverty and refuse to get a job instead prefring to live on Benefit while pissing on our country.

loada balls.

the Koran clearly states you have a duty of loyalty to your own country and obey the laws of the land you live in.
as per usual it is men who twist the name of religion to suit themselves.
And you wonder why the Arabs hate America? As for your last statement about religion, I suppose that applies to everyone except Bush, after all he's American and is thus excempt from criticism for exporting his own brand of radical right-wing religious fanaticism.
 
#15
It’s great to read the wide variety of unbiased non bigoted posts. If you had watched the whole SKNN you would have realised that there were a wide variety of opinion and surprisingly little of it was extremist. Well balanced arguments covering diverse topics such as the observance of there religion, outward signs of there religion, the conflict between the Young and the Old, the cultured discussion of the pro western Muslims and the light hearted comparison of what has meaning in their lives and our own.

Semper: Less than 3,000 people died from the 2 towers which when compared to the conservative estimate of 5,000,000 (1,300 a day) dead from the US led sanctions against Iraq then you would understand how an extremist could see that actually the 2 towers maybe wasn't enough

The fact is most Muslims do not support the extremist but like all major religions and organisations there are bad apples. Christian extremist in the US will murder doctors for practicing abortions, Catholics in NI will plant bombs in busy town centres and lunatics in Japan spread poison gas on an Underground train.

Maybe what you should ask yourself is why are these extremist doing this? Or maybe what have we done to promote a man from a of peace religion to destroy 2 of the worlds tallest buildings? I guarantee the US has not
 
#16
I didn't see the programme, so can't comment on it.

But, as I have said in other threads, I have quite a few muslim friends because my wife is from an islamic country. Those whom I know (who may or may not represent the majority) are as appalled by terrorism as I am. Every one of them are kind, decent, peaceloving people who would do nothing to hurt or offend others intentionally. It is very sad that anyone here (whom I assume generally to be Ex or Serving Soldiers, who really ought to know better) thinks it desirable or acceptable to hurt or offend them.

They may disagree with what our government does, but then they (like us) disagree with what thier own does often enough. They would be very hurt to read the views expressed in this thread, and since they do not deserve any of the negative epithets here rightly so.

It would be good to see a more reasoned discussion about these things and a lot less of the sweeping generalisations (sometimes wildy innacurate too) that seem the norm.
 
#17
VirtualSoapBox said:
Semper: Less than 3,000 people died from the 2 towers
That makes it OK does it ?

VirtualSoapBox said:
conservative estimate of 5,000,000 (1,300 a day) dead from the US led sanctions against Iraq then you would understand how an extremist could see that actually the 2 towers maybe wasn't enough
estimate being the operative word and of course no mention of the hundreds of thousands killed by Sadam.

VirtualSoapBox said:
The fact is most Muslims do not support the extremists
That isn't a fact it's your opinion.
 
#18
GwaiLo said:
But, as I have said in other threads, I have quite a few muslim friends because my wife is from an islamic country. Those whom I know (who may or may not represent the majority) are as appalled by terrorism as I am. Every one of them are kind, decent, peaceloving people who would do nothing to hurt or offend others intentionally.
So you know a few muslims that say to you a non muslim that they wouldn't hurt anyone :roll: and this makes you an expert on Islam does it ?

GwaiLo said:
It is very sad that anyone here (whom I assume generally to be Ex or Serving Soldiers, who really ought to know better) thinks it desirable or acceptable to hurt or offend them.
Who do you think you are telling me an ex soldier what I should think or know better.

GwaiLo said:
They would be very hurt to read the views expressed in this thread,
I'm very hurt by seeing muslims hacking heads off, I'm very hurt by see British Muslims in England preaching hatered to non muslim on the streets.
 
#19
armourer

I know many muslims whom, as I stated may or may not represent the majority. I don't claim to be an expert on Islam, albeit I probably know a good deal more about it than a lot of non muslims, nonetheless I have claimed no expertise. I have merely stated my views and those of those muslims I know well.

Who do you think you are telling me an ex soldier what I should think or know better.
I haven't told you or anyone else what to think. I have said that attitudes like yours sadden me, particularly from soldiers or ex soldiers who should (given our long experience of counter insurgency ops) know that hearts and minds is what has always succeeded in winning. As the "Ex Soldier" bit, well so fcuking what, so am I. Wind your neck in.

I'm very hurt by seeing muslims hacking heads off, I'm very hurt by see British Muslims in England preaching hatered to non muslim on the streets.
And so, as my post said, are my muslim friends. Condemn them for agreeing with you if you want, you are free to make your own choices, but it strikes me as pretty bloody stupid.

I can't be arrsed with flame wars with doebags who can't be bothered to read what I post, so don't even bother.
 
#20
Armourer. It is comforting and reassuring to see the light of reason and tolerance shine so brightly from your argument.

The estimates are estimates because oddly enough in Iraq during the Sadam era accurate census was not top of the agenda but the UN, ICRC and Amnesty among others are in agreement that the numbers of the poor (oddly enough the establishment was fine) killed by the Sanctions were huge. Admittedly they may be over estimates but they are way in excess of any direct comparison to the WTC. The numbers killed by Sadam are not part of anyone’s argument as he was despised as much as anybody and I haven’t sought to justify his actions at all

The deaths of the 3,000 from the WTC are not ok no and only your narrow mindedness would have you believe that I thought it otherwise. The rightness or wrongness does however depend on your point of view as I stated. Opinion is similarly split with regard to the DRESDEN bombings by the RAF in WWII.

You are quite correct as measurement of the support for extremists is difficult to ascertain but as my opinion is based on the opinion polls and survey conduct by Government and Non Government agencies and published in the better papers it is a good guide.

As for your replies to GwaiLo they are childish in the extreme and barely worthy of comment. Although usually I refrain from personal insult I am compelled to question whether you are aware that you are bigoted, narrow minded and crass, which is a shame because you appear otherwise to be reasonably intelligent
 

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