Palestine in the UN

#1
So why does the USA back the Jewish State today?
20, 30 years ago I think it was to keep a hand in the middle East and maybe destabilise it. Now
the mid east - apart from the oil is well****ed up. So wny support the red sea walkers , after 20 years its the same story.

What hold do the Yids have on the USA ?
 
#3
So why does the USA back the Jewish State today?
20, 30 years ago I think it was to keep a hand in the middle East and maybe destabilise it. Now
the mid east - apart from the oil is well****ed up. So wny support the red sea walkers , after 20 years its the same story.

What hold do the Yids have on the USA ?
The home grown Jewish political lobby.
 
#4
Last time I was in Long Island, it was like Tel Aviv central, Loads of black hatted Hassidim with their own shops, speaking their own language.

Very much the Golders Green thing.


So why does the USA back the Jewish State today?
20, 30 years ago I think it was to keep a hand in the middle East and maybe destabilise it. Now
the mid east - apart from the oil is well****ed up. So wny support the red sea walkers , after 20 years its the same story.

What hold do the Yids have on the USA ?
 
#5
What hold do the Yids have on the USA ?
The Jewish vote is critical to gaining the Presidency. Despite being only a few per cent of the electorate, they have a disproportionate effect as they are concentrated in some of the most marginal areas, where a one or two per cent swing would affect the outcome, and they also have a tendency to vote en masse.
 
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#6
Last time I was in Long Island, it was like Tel Aviv central, Loads of black hatted Hassidim with their own shops, speaking their own language.

Very much the Golders Green thing.
Shall I let you into a little known secret? Banks are owned by Jews. Politicians do what they are told to do by Banks. Ooh, what a revelation.
 

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#8
Shall I let you into a little known secret? Banks are owned by Jews. Politicians do what they are told to do by Banks. Ooh, what a revelation.
Silly me I thought that banks were owned by shareholders, some of whom happen to be Jewish. While the Jews punch above their weight, let's not forget they are a powerful minority directly related to their control of capital, but it's as much social and intellectual capital as fiscal.
 
#10
They have a very good political lobby.
 
#11
Last time I was in Long Island, it was like Tel Aviv central, Loads of black hatted Hassidim with their own shops, speaking their own language.

Very much the Golders Green thing.
I've lived on Long Island for years, where can I find me these loads of Hasidim? As so far I havent seen any large numbers.
 
#12
Shall I let you into a little known secret? Banks are owned by Jews. Politicians do what they are told to do by Banks. Ooh, what a revelation.
I hear they drink the blood of christian children as well, coming to the EDL meeting tonight?
 
#13
#14
Why so Bob Why should anyone - other than their neighbours - be worried about Israels reaction ?


Personally I just wish the USA would grow some and put the Israelis back in their box. Its like watching some over-indulgent parent and their obnoxious arrogant teenage kid - " Best not say anything, its easier than putting up with the tantrums...."
 
#15
Wow, I think the majority of you is fantastically missing the point.

First, the majority of the US considers itself identifying with christianity, not judaism. Second, that identity to some fundamentalists have a causal effect to want to protect the jews, while as it was explained to me, they are considered gods chosen people and even if they are not christian, they are somehow afforded a free pass or something like that. I'm an atheist so I think it's all really bullshit. But that leads me to the third and last point.

Almost all Americans, christian, jew. atheist, what have you, pretty much all view israel as a bastion of sanity in a sea of hateful ultra religious islamist facists and theocratic dictatorships. Besides, we may believe jews are bumping people off, they are not flying planes into buildings.

The reality and the perception may be two different things, but all things being equal, perception is reality.

There is no doubt in my mind what the arabs are capable of, especially espoused in the culture of hate and divisiveness mixed with thousands of years of tribal mentality as well as a healthy dose of fatalistic religion mixed in.

You also have the very real logistics issue. The land simply cannot absorb all those people, so where are they supposed to go? Some may suggest mass graves, others may suggest the sea, and many Americans may suggest that neither is acceptable.
 
#16
"There is no doubt in my mind what the arabs are capable of, especially espoused in the culture of hate and divisiveness mixed with thousands of years of tribal mentality as well as a healthy dose of fatalistic religion mixed in.

Well, the Palestinians did have a land -- it was called Palestine. Until they were driven off it at gunpoint: American guns in Jewish hands. Forget thousands of years, just go back to 1948 and everything that's been done to the Palestinians since then -- not forgotting the Cambodians, the Laotians, the Vietnamese and the Afghans as well.

Americans are bastards, Americans are hated by everybody, and Americans will get what's coming to them. Message ends.
 
#17
"There is no doubt in my mind what the arabs are capable of, especially espoused in the culture of hate and divisiveness mixed with thousands of years of tribal mentality as well as a healthy dose of fatalistic religion mixed in.

Well, the Palestinians did have a land -- it was called Palestine. Until they were driven off it at gunpoint: American guns in Jewish hands. Forget thousands of years, just go back to 1948 and everything that's been done to the Palestinians since then -- not forgotting the Cambodians, the Laotians, the Vietnamese and the Afghans as well.

Americans are bastards, Americans are hated by everybody, and Americans will get what's coming to them. Message ends.
Hey dogshit for brains, the Israelis used British Stens, Brens, SMLE's, and Czech and German Mausers in 48. US Guns didnt come until after 1965. I wonder what a Lousy Soldier you were in the British Army that you fled to Australia.

Let me guess you liked little boy cock or ass? like shagging sheep a wee bit much? Mum and da were siblings? has to be something that made you a walking advertisement for retroactive abortion. Your face should be on condom packages with the warning: "Parents don't let this happen to you"

In closing you syphilletic pus filled **** wart on the ass of a wildebeest, eat a shotgun
 
#18
...Americans are bastards, Americans are hated by everybody, and Americans will get what's coming to them. Message ends.
A nation and peoples that know how to laugh at themselves cannot be all that bad. They will criticise and demand from their leaders things that they believe to be right and a peoples that does that can't be all that bad. A nation that succeeds with peoples of great diversity cannot be all that bad.

A lesson their for the arabs perhaps?
 
#19
Hey dogshit for brains, the Israelis used British Stens, Brens, SMLE's, and Czech and German Mausers in 48. US Guns didnt come until after 1965. I wonder what a Lousy Soldier you were in the British Army that you fled to Australia.

Let me guess you liked little boy cock or ass? like shagging sheep a wee bit much? Mum and da were siblings? has to be something that made you a walking advertisement for retroactive abortion. Your face should be on condom packages with the warning: "Parents don't let this happen to you"

In closing you syphilletic pus filled **** wart on the ass of a wildebeest, eat a shotgun
And who do you think paid for those guns?

"Every time a British soldier dies in Palestine my heart makes a little holiday": American playwright and film director Ben Hecht, 1948.

Oh, and by the way I do envy you: I always wanted a university education myself.

Incidentally, if any Briton to know what our Israeli friends were up to during the Falklands' War, you might find this link interesting:-

Israel 'supplied arms to Argentina during Falklands War' - Telegraph
 
#20
Americans are bastards, Americans are hated by everybody, and Americans will get what's coming to them. Message ends.
So you hate an entire race of 300 million based on generalisations, skewed historical interpretations and assumptions? You realise that means you're not only a racist but also a fuckwit. You also realise the laughable hypocrisy of an Aussie talking about anyone theiving someone elses land.
Personally I think now would be the ideal time for the Americans to back a moderate West Bank headed independent Palestine. Israel is surrounded by countries in turmoil, with both the Turks and Egyptians pissed at them along with the Syrians potentially looking at a nice 'evil Jews' style diversion and not forgetting that the Iranians haven't gone away, the Americans could probably force them to accept without too much pressure.
 

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