Pakistan: Taliban brainwashes kids with visions of virgins

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Pakistan: Taliban brainwashes kids with visions of virgins
By Arwa Damon, CNN

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Pakistani military claims Taliban training children as suicide bombers
* Compound said to be decorated in colorful images of heavenly pleasures
* Taliban admits training children from region, Middle East as suicide bombers
* Expert says 90 percent of suicide bombers aged 12 to 18


Nawaz Kot, Pakistan (CNN) -- "When we got to this compound it was shocking for us," Lt. Col. Yusuf tells us, standing in the middle of what the Pakistani military says was a brainwashing center -- for children.

It was here, according to the Pakistani military, that children aged 12 to 18 were turned from innocent youngsters into cold-blooded killers, willing to blow themselves to bits as suicide bombers.

The discovery of the compound was first reported in Pakistani media last month. Yusuf says his unit took it over after a three day battle with militants.

Part of the compound consists of four rooms -- each wall adorned with brightly colored paintings in clear contrast to the barren and harsh landscape surrounding it. The children were told that this was what awaited them in heaven.

Each of the images has a river flowing through it. Some have people playing in the water. Others have women lining the banks.

The military says that the children are told that these are rivers of milk and honey, that the women are the virgins that await them in heaven. That the children were told that they will live in the company of the holy prophet and be served feasts.

One has a home similar to the mud homes in the area which the military says is meant to invoke memories of where the children are from but with a beautiful mountainous green backdrop. Written across it are the words "Long live the Taliban of the mountains."

The images may appear simple. But for the children from this part of Pakistan they are captivating. They grow up in abject poverty surrounded by dirt-colored mountains with treacherous gullies and valleys with no exposure to the outside world. They are gullible and easily manipulated.

"I have never seen such elaborate paintings about so-called heaven," Taliban expert Zahid Hussein says, looking at the images.

He has seen similar tactics in the past and spoken extensively with would-be child suicide bombers in the custody of the authorities.

"They [the militants] say life is a waste here and if you do a good thing you will go to heaven, immediately to heaven. For someone who does not have anything to look forward to, who does not have any opportunities and is living a wretched life, this sort of thing comes as a big incentive," Hussein explains.

He says the children end up believing that their life in this world is worthless, that life only starts in the hereafter. The Taliban is offering them a fast track option to paradise, a longed for escape from their daily reality surrounded by violence.

Nawaz Kot was once a Taliban stronghold.

"The militants were mostly hidden away in bunkers. The tactic they would use was long-range sniping and IEDs (improvised explosive device) on the road," Brigadier General Sarfraz Satter explains as we bump along the road just outside of his brigade's base in South Waziristan on our way to the training center. "They [the militants] had all those positions up there."

He points to the mountaintops in clear sight of his headquarters. When the military launched its operation to take these lands back, he says they knew that the compound was a training center, that perhaps children were involved. What they didn't realize was the sheer level of indoctrination.

The children were from the local area. He says the parents would send them thinking they were getting an education and, more importantly, free food.

"But they don't know what kind of religious education their child is being put through." General Satter says, acknowledging that for the next phase of operations to succeed, there has to be a focus on education. "When we start our rehabilitation, we have to reopen schools to stop them [the parents] from sending their children into the wrong hands."

The military says that the compound could house some 200-300 children. The Pakistani military believes it was in full use until the summer when they bombed it. Since then they say that numbers had dwindled although they are not sure how recently children were staying there. But for the children that have already passed through the compound, it's likely too late.

"The pamphlets we found tell us they were trained in weapons handling, preparing of suicide jackets and ambush tactics," Lt. Col. Yusuf says. "These terrorists keep the children at the frontline, and most of the casualties have been children when they [the terrorists] are attacking the posts.

"They say to them, 'Look your sacrifice will not be wasted,' and so he [the child] is mentally prepared to do whatever they want him to do,' expert Zahid Hussein further explains.

He says it's a complete distortion of Islam, but one that the children fervently believe.

"They are also led to believe that the Muslims who are killed in suicide bombings, they will go to heaven as well. So that is a very powerful instrument of brainwashing," he adds.

The Taliban says that this particular compound is not one of their's. But they say that they are actively training children from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Central Asia and the Middle East to be suicide bombers.

As Pakistan tries to cope with an ever increasing wave of suicide bombing, a chilling statistic is coming to light.

"Almost 90 percent of suicide bombers, if you look at their profile, are 12 to 18 years old," Hussein says.

The war on terror expert says there also needs to be a war on poverty and a commitment to providing education and opportunity so that children in the future won't be turned into murderers, thinking that suicide and death are their only escape from a hopeless life.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/01/05/pakistan.taliban.children/
 
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IIRC, the original Assassins during the Crusades used similar, but more sophisticated, methods; they would dope the recruit up to his eyeballs then put him in a hidden garden. Beautiful women would make love to him and serve him fine food and more drugs until he eventually passed out.

When he awoke he would be back in the Assassins training camp. He would be told that what he had experianced was Allah's Paradise. And the only way to go back there was to die in the service of the Assassins...
 
#3
Werewolf said:
And the only way to go back there was to die in the service of the Assassins...
Thus providing a target-rich environment!
 
#4
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
And the only way to go back there was to die in the service of the Assassins...
Thus providing a target-rich environment!
It worked; at the height of their power, even Saladin did'nt mess with them. The Assassins left a poisened dagger on his chest while he slept. A clear warning that they could get to Saladin anywhere. He took the hint and backed off.

Unfortunately for the Assassins, they began to believe their own hype and accepted a contract on Ghenghis Khan...

Bad. Mistake. 8O :twisted:

Ghengis gave the Assassins a world class bitch-slapping. He distroyed their stronghold and training camp at Alamut, and massacred almost every member of the sect. Although a few are believed to have escaped.

The Assassins were led by the Old Man of The Mountains, a sort of proto-Bin Ladin. He always wore a mask when talking to the other Assassins, and this led to the legend that he was immortal. Of course, the title and mask were handed down from father to son for generations.

A bit like the Dread Pirate Roberts! :D
 
#5
Werewolf said:
they would dope the recruit up to his eyeballs then put him in a hidden garden. Beautiful women would make love to him and serve him fine food and more drugs until he eventually passed out.
That's how Percy Thrower got started too. :)
 
#6
Legallybald said:
Werewolf said:
they would dope the recruit up to his eyeballs then put him in a hidden garden. Beautiful women would make love to him and serve him fine food and more drugs until he eventually passed out.
That's how Percy Thrower got started too. :)
And Charlie Dimmock! :D
 
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I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
 
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jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
 
#9
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
Shhhhhh..... Loose lips and all that! :D
 

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Werewolf said:
IIRC, the original Assassins during the Crusades used similar, but more sophisticated, methods; they would dope the recruit up to his eyeballs then put him in a hidden garden. Beautiful women would make love to him and serve him fine food and more drugs until he eventually passed out.

When he awoke he would be back in the Assassins training camp. He would be told that what he had experianced was Allah's Paradise. And the only way to go back there was to die in the service of the Assassins...
Change Drugs to booze - Beautiful women to any old slapper and beautiful gardens to barrack block or anywhere for that matter and you have my life in the forces


Is this what it's all about they want to be squaddies

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#11
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
Shhhhhh..... Loose lips and all that! :D
They'll have to include the garden and women when they set up the training academy for the "new paramilitary man-hunting agency" you lot were talking about last year. :D

Where do I apply?! :drool:
 
#12
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
Shhhhhh..... Loose lips and all that! :D
They'll have to include the garden and women when they set up the training academy for the "new paramilitary man-hunting agency" you lot were talking about last year. :D

Where do I apply?! :drool:
'Sorry to tell you--that was before the new masters took over. Now there is an organic garden and a number of cross dressers and transsexuals for your pleasure. They are, however, reputed to be lovely in poor lighting.
 
#13
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
Shhhhhh..... Loose lips and all that! :D
They'll have to include the garden and women when they set up the training academy for the "new paramilitary man-hunting agency" you lot were talking about last year. :D

Where do I apply?! :drool:
'Sorry to tell you--that was before the new masters took over. Now there is an organic garden and a number of cross dressers and transsexuals for your pleasure. They are, however, reputed to be lovely in poor lighting.
8O :omfg: :puker: :pukel: :D
 
#14
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
Werewolf said:
jumpinjarhead said:
I now understand why hidden gardens, beautiful women, and fine food have been repeatedly sighted in places like Stirling Lines, Credenhill, Hamworthy, Coronado, Ft Bragg, Camp Lejeune and elsewhere. :D
Don't forget the Fort and the Farm. :wink:
Shhhhhh..... Loose lips and all that! :D
They'll have to include the garden and women when they set up the training academy for the "new paramilitary man-hunting agency" you lot were talking about last year. :D

Where do I apply?! :drool:
'Sorry to tell you--that was before the new masters took over. Now there is an organic garden and a number of cross dressers and transsexuals for your pleasure. They are, however, reputed to be lovely in poor lighting.
8O :omfg: :puker: :pukel: :D
I anticipate we will be getting chided soon for using this forum for such pedestrian frivolity.
 
#15
Werewolf said:
IIRC, the original Assassins during the Crusades used similar, but more sophisticated, methods; they would dope the recruit up to his eyeballs then put him in a hidden garden. Beautiful women would make love to him and serve him fine food and more drugs until he eventually passed out.

When he awoke he would be back in the Assassins training camp. He would be told that what he had experianced was Allah's Paradise. And the only way to go back there was to die in the service of the Assassins...
I can recommend Terminate With Extreme Prejudice, by Richard Belfield ISBN 978 0 3304 2315 1 Pan (in Australia) Contains quite a lot about the Assassins (who deplored all drugs) Not at all tinfoiley, and well worth reading.
 
#16
Haven't we missed the obvious? It's against the Quoran to portray any living thing including people.

Ergo these recruiter/trainer types can't be very good Muslims, can they?
 
#17
JoeCivvie said:
Haven't we missed the obvious? It's against the Quoran to portray any living thing including people.

Ergo these recruiter/trainer types can't be very good Muslims, can they?
I suppose one files that protest along with the others about how many of their own they have killed along the way but I am sure there is an exception for that in the fine print.
 
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JoeCivvie said:
Haven't we missed the obvious? It's against the Quoran to portray any living thing including people.

Ergo these recruiter/trainer types can't be very good Muslims, can they?
Isn't it also against Islam to commit suicide? Or do they have a caveat for that as well?
 
#19
auscam said:
JoeCivvie said:
Haven't we missed the obvious? It's against the Quoran to portray any living thing including people.

Ergo these recruiter/trainer types can't be very good Muslims, can they?
Isn't it also against Islam to commit suicide? Or do they have a caveat for that as well?
It's those Mosque-room lawyers again.
 
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Ignore me - I'm sort of half-right, depending on the Sunni or shia interpretation:

Are Pictures of Muhammad Really Forbidden In Islam?

While some Muslims were outraged by a magazine printing cartoon pictures of Muhammad, we have to step back and calmly ask, are pictures of Muhammad really forbidden in Islam? – the answer might surprise you.

Numerous passages in the Qur’an prohibit idolatry, and worshipping statues or pictures, but there is not even single verse in the Qur’an that explicitly or implicitly says not to have any pictures of Muhammad. This bears repeating: There is not a single verse in the Qur’an that prohibits making or having pictures of Muhammad or people or animals or trees. In fact, there are some verses in the Qur’an which mention images in a positive context and which therefore presuppose that some statues or images were approved by God, see the article Muhammad and Images.

However, the vast majority of Muslims are Sunni Muslims, who regard six authorized collections of hadiths as the highest written authority in Islam after the Qur’an. The hadiths are records, often very detailed, of what Muhammad taught and did. We give multiple quotations to show that these teachings are not confined to just one writer/collector, but are spread throughout the different hadith collections.

Where multiple trustworthy hadiths agree, Sunni Muslims will take this as binding. In other words, people today are kicked out of Islam, or even killed based on the hadiths.

Pictures of Muhammad are "not exactly" forbidden in the hadiths either. The hadiths do not single out Muhammad’s picture. Rather, in the hadith we find the prohibition of all pictures of people or animals, which would include pictures from a camera.

For example, Sahih Muslim vol.3 no.5268 (p.1160) says, "Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: Those who paint pictures would be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it would be said to them: Breathe soul into what you have created.2519"

Notice that the prohibition was not just against idolators who made pictures, or even Muslims who made pictures for other reasons, but for anyone who made pictures.

Sahih Muslim vol.3 no.5271 (p.1161) gives a little more detail: "This hadith has been reported on the authority of Abu Mu’awiya though another chain of transmitters (and the words are): ‘Verily the most grievously tormented people amongst the denizens [inhabitants] of Hell on the Day of Resurrection would be the painters of pictures.2520..."

"Narrated ‘Aisha: Allah’s Apostle said, ‘The painter of these pictures will be punished on the Day of Resurrection, and it will be said to them, Make alive what you have created.’" Bukhari vol.9 book 93 no.646 p.487. no.647 p.487 is the same except it is narrated by Ibn ‘Umar.

No pictures of people or animals according to Bukhari vol.4 book 54 no.447-450 p.297-299.

Conclusion: It is clear that the hadiths prohibit pictures of animals or people, especially in homes. There is no focus on pictures of Muhammad per se. All pictures of people and animals are forbidden. It is a completely general prohibition.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/pictures.html
 

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