Pakistan refuses to take action against London terror suspec


25 July 2005: Britain and Pakistan have got into a stand-off situation in respect of three imams linked to the London bombings who have gone into hiding in the Binori madrasa in Karachi, the training ground of the Jaish-e-Mohammad, and the Lashkar-e-Toiba headquarters in Muridke outside Lahore.

Diplomatic sources said British prime minister Tony Blair insisted on Pakistan raiding these places and arresting the imams, who are said to have masterminded the bombing, but General Parvez Musharraf refused, saying the government had no firm indication of their presence there, and the UK did not share a level of relationship where it could seek such action.

Sources said that in anger, Blair asked Musharraf to make his refusal public, which the general declined to do, whereupon he sought US intervention, and the American secretary of state, Condoleezaa Rice, spoke to the Pakistani president, but without moving him.

While Pakistan did not say no, it told Britain that there had to be engagement followed by cooperation, where some joint action could be planned, but it was unreasonable to expect Pakistani forces to launch potentially dangerous missions just because the British demanded it.

Diplomats said Pakistan knew the three imams, whose identities are not being disclosed for security reasons, were hiding in madrasas, but authorities could not raid them without provoking a fierce backlash, something which could damage General Musharraf’s position and rock the Pakistani army.

“The US after hearing of Musharraf’s predicament backed off,” said a diplomat. “Musharraf simply said the UK did not enjoy the same level of relationship with Pakistan as the US did, and therefore, it could not expect action that could be explosive.”

The UK is giving Pakistan two weeks to smoke out the three imams, and it wants its own forces to raid the suspected premises, and General Musharraf fears this would invite more outrage than if Pakistani troops entered these places.


A country that UK created..
Sounds like the two most significant exports Pakistan has nowadays is heroin and extremists.
Pakistan involved in Egypt terror attacks

SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt - Police said Monday they were searching for six Pakistani men in their widening investigation into Egypt's deadliest terror attack that killed scores of people, including an American, at this Red Sea resort.

Police were circulating photographs of the six, who have been missing since several days before Saturday's attacks, at checkpoints in and around this southern Sinai resort city. An Associated Press correspondent who saw the images said the men appeared to be between the ages of 20 and 30.

The involvement of Pakistanis in the attack in Sharm el-Sheik would be unprecedented, as non-Egyptians rarely have been linked to attacks here. It also would be extremely difficult for a group of young Pakistanis not to be noticed in Sharm, one of the heaviest policed cities in Egypt and a favorite place of residence for President
Hosni Mubarak.

Pakistani involvement, if proven, also would increase suspicions that
Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network may have been involved. The Saudi-born bin Laden is popular among militant Pakistani groups and is known to enjoy support in tribal areas close to the Afghan border.

According to local hospitals, Saturday's pre-dawn bombings killed at least 88 people; Egypt's Health Ministry put the death toll at 64. Hospitals said the ministry count does not include a number of sets of body parts.

At least one American was killed.

Kristina Miller, 27, of Las Vegas, was among the dead, according to KLAS-TV in Las Vegas, quoting her father, Anthony Miller, who said she was vacationing there from England.

He told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Monday that he last spoke to her Friday night, on the eve of her birthday.

"I told her be careful, have a great birthday and I love her and I will call her and talk to her the next day. And that was the last time I talked to her," Miller said.

South Sinai Gov. Mustafa Afifi said Monday that 17 foreigners, including Westerners and citizens from other Arab states, were killed in the attacks, in which the bombers are suspected of hiding their explosives under vegetables in the back of pickup trucks.

Two Italians and a Czech were confirmed killed, according to their governments, and a hospital official in Sharm said two Britons and two Germans were killed. Several Italians and Britons were unaccounted for.

An official at the Pakistan Embassy in Cairo said his embassy was in contact with Egyptian authorities over the issue of the missing Pakistanis.

"But they have not officially informed us that the Pakistanis are suspected of involvement in the bombing. They are only saying: 'We are searching for them. We cannot trace them,'" said Khalid Ahmed, a counselor at the Pakistani mission.

"It is very difficult for us to confirm whether any Pakistani was in Sharm el-Sheik but it is possible that someone may have been there. I have a strong belief that Pakistanis cannot be involved in terrorism here."

Many Pakistanis use Egypt as a route to travel to Europe to find jobs, he said. Last week, police arrested between 40 and 45 Pakistanis in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria for being illegal immigrants.

Police have detained more than 70 people in Sharm and other parts of the Sinai Peninsula during the investigation, which also is following different threads, including possible Palestinian involvement and whether the attacks were linked to October's bombings in two other Sinai resorts.

The investigators, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the inquiry, said they were looking into whether the six men had any involvement in carrying out Saturday's attack.

Police were to conduct DNA testing on the remains of a suicide bomber found in a car that rammed into the Ghazala Gardens Hotel in Naama Bay, the city's main tourist area, early Saturday. Two other blasts rocked a parking lot near the hotel and an area about two miles away called the Old Market.

Afifi said the Ghazala suicide bomber ran down and killed two security guards before crashing into the reception area and detonating his explosives, which investigators have said weighed 660 pounds.

Shortly after, a backpack filled with explosives left by another attacker blew up near the parking lot and taxi stand close to the Ghazala, he said.

The terrorist involved in the third blast in the Old Market had intended to attack a hotel, possibly the Iberotel Palace, Afifi said. But the attacker was stopped in a line of cars at a nearby police checkpoint and got out of his pickup before it exploded. Police are investigating whether the attacker died in the blast.

If independently confirmed, any involvement of Pakistanis would suggest that those behind Saturday's bombings belong to a much wider terror network than previously believed.

Until the latest news broke Monday, suspicions had primarily focused on a Sinai-based network believed responsible for the October bombings in the area that also targeted tourist sites, killing 34 people.

On Sunday, security officials said the bombers appeared to have entered Sharm in two pickup trucks loaded with explosives hidden under vegetables and that police were searching for three suspects believed to have survived the bombings. It was unclear if police were linking those three in any way to the six Pakistanis being sought.

Before the attacks, the militants rubbed serial numbers off the trucks' engines, the officials said. Such serial numbers had been a key clue Egyptian investigators had used to track down those behind the October bombings at two resorts farther north in the Sinai Peninsula, Taba and Ras Shitan.

Investigators also were examining whether the suicide bomber who set off the blast at the Ghazala was one of five suspects still at large from the October attacks.

Police took DNA samples from the parents of the five Taba suspects to compare with bodies found at the Ghazala, a police official said in el-Arish, where the parents were briefly detained.

Egyptian authorities portrayed the Taba bombings as an extension of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict rather than a homegrown Islamic militant movement or an al-Qaida-linked operation. They said a Palestinian who died in the attacks had recruited Bedouins and Egyptians to plot the bombings.

But the sophistication of the Sharm bombings — and their timing on the heels of two rounds of attacks in London — raised worries of a wider international connection.

Two rival claims of responsibility have emerged for the Sharm bombings, but neither statement could be authenticated. One was by the Abdullah Azzam Brigades of al-Qaida in
Syria and Egypt, which also claimed responsibility for the October bombings. The other was by the previously unknown Holy Warriors of Egypt.


I say bring back the good old days, bring back the Empire.
We can begin by invading Pakistan. :twisted:
The news report in the first post is Indian ROFLMAO. Considering India is probably the most terrorist infested nation in the world (how many insurgencies in India are there at the moment? too many to count) they would do well to put their own house in order first :D

The Pakistani foreign minister has stated the Pakistanis being hunted in Egypt are unlikely to be linked to be terrorism. May well have been illegal immigration attempt. Worth waiting for all the facts to come out before making judgements (after all, wasn't a suspected 'suicide bomber' shot on the tube the other day?).

Baghdad Brit, there is not much heroin coming out of Pakistan. It all comes from Afghanistan these days, thanks to the 'great work' done by the USA and Britain over the last two years in fighting the drug trade there :D

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