Paedos in the Irish Roman Catholic church

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/

Well done to the British Army, and anyone else who resisted a potential slide for the Ulster people governed by ths crowd. Adds a new dimmension to NO SURRENDER. I remember hearing about this during the 70s growing up over there and I even met many of those who had been victims of it.

KTFP
:x
 
#2
No doubt many of them die hard republicans.. no wonder Adams always has that pained look on his face!
 
#3
The_Coming_Man said:
No doubt many of them die hard republicans.. no wonder Adams always has that pained look on his face!
You got it in one. Every last sicko individual.
 
#4
This report has been badly needed for decades in Ireland - and it's taken the Irish state to come out from beneath its habit and mindset of being utterly deferential to the Church, and become more secular for it [this report] to get any where near being allowed to see the light of day.

It'll never mend the hurt and abuse which has been done by those responsible, but at least it sets a precedent which means that the types of abusers who did this will no longer be able to hide behind the cassocks and cotters of the Church.

All we have to do now is wait for the opposing camps to finish arguing about how those responsible should be dealt with - although I sense a scene from a Hammer Horror film coming on, where the villagers storm Frankenstein's castle and torch the place...
 
#6
How did the Christian brothers manage this?
BBC said:
The findings will not be used for criminal prosecutions - in part because the Christian Brothers successfully sued the commission in 2004 to keep the identities of all of its members, dead or alive, unnamed in the report.
 
#7
stacker1 said:
How did the Christian brothers manage this?
BBC said:
The findings will not be used for criminal prosecutions - in part because the Christian Brothers successfully sued the commission in 2004 to keep the identities of all of its members, dead or alive, unnamed in the report.
Heaven forbid that the judiciary weren't up to their necks in this. What is it with political, legal and religious establishments?
 
#8
The_Coming_Man said:
stacker1 said:
How did the Christian brothers manage this?
BBC said:
The findings will not be used for criminal prosecutions - in part because the Christian Brothers successfully sued the commission in 2004 to keep the identities of all of its members, dead or alive, unnamed in the report.
Heaven forbid that the judiciary weren't up to their necks in this. What is it with political, legal and religious establishments?
Possibly it wasn't their necks they were up to.
 
#9
Yes Wonk Mog - the people of Northern Ireland have warned of this for years - and been called bigots for speaking out.
The dominance of such paedophiles, male and female, over a helpless minority was a very good reason (among many), to avoid becoming part of the society which permitted it.
 
#10
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.Proof, if any were needed that Darwin was right and religion is a croc of sh1t. It's been going on for centuries in the Catholic church, the cover up has been going on for nearly as long.
 
#11
Punch said:
Yes Wonk Mog - the people of Northern Ireland have warned of this for years - and been called bigots for speaking out.
The dominance of such paedophiles, male and female, over a helpless minority was a very good reason (among many), to avoid becoming part of the society which permitted it.
Yes the entire problems between NI and the Republic can be boiled down to paedo priests.....yes thats it. 8O
the murdering by both sides, discrimination ect ect can be conviniently swept away by a simple answer....it's Father Mctouchy's fault.....
 
#12
stacker1 said:
How did the Christian brothers manage this?
BBC said:
The findings will not be used for criminal prosecutions - in part because the Christian Brothers successfully sued the commission in 2004 to keep the identities of all of its members, dead or alive, unnamed in the report.
Blackmail - just like in Westminster!
And by the way some of our MP's are probably hoping this takes some of the heat off them.
 
#13
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.
There are plenty of priests who are not choir boy bottom touchers, just as there are happily married men who rape kids. Nothing to do with relationship status, Just dirty pervs looking for an excuse.
 
#14
stacker1 said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.
There are plenty of priests who are not choir boy bottom touchers, just as there are happily married men who rape kids. Nothing to do with relationship status, Just dirty pervs looking for an excuse.

Hey, I'm not trying to defend them and I agree with your post.
But Catholic priests are sworn to celibacy, which must put a strain on what are often young men. Faith might be able to move mountains, but it doesn't stop a bloke waking up with a hardon!
 
#15
petergriffen said:
Punch said:
Yes Wonk Mog - the people of Northern Ireland have warned of this for years - and been called bigots for speaking out.
The dominance of such paedophiles, male and female, over a helpless minority was a very good reason (among many), to avoid becoming part of the society which permitted it.
Yes the entire problems between NI and the Republic can be boiled down to paedo priests.....yes thats it. 8O
the murdering by both sides, discrimination ect ect can be conviniently swept away by a simple answer....it's Father Mctouchy's fault.....
That is the correct answer.
KTP
KHH
KHDTFY
:x
 
#16
stacker1 said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.
There are plenty of priests who are not choir boy bottom touchers, just as there are happily married men who rape kids. Nothing to do with relationship status, Just dirty pervs looking for an excuse.
It wasn't simply paedophilia - it was the incredible and sustained physical and mental violence against people who were in no position to defend themselves. Read the reports, listen to the witnesses.

There are many good and benign priests, and there are many family men who are also paedophiles. The fault or blame also lies with the society which permitted this while knowing it was happening
 
#17
Murphy_Slaw said:
stacker1 said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.
There are plenty of priests who are not choir boy bottom touchers, just as there are happily married men who rape kids. Nothing to do with relationship status, Just dirty pervs looking for an excuse.

Hey, I'm not trying to defend them and I agree with your post.
But Catholic priests are sworn to celibacy, which must put a strain on what are often young men. Faith might be able to move mountains, but it doesn't stop a bloke waking up with a hardon!
Then they can have a wank, the same as every other man who can't get a shag but doesn't resort to abusing kids.

Its just an excuse to say they were sexually frustrated, they could of just paid a whore (as some popes used to), they chose kids because that is what they like, if they had another profession they still would have targeted kids.
 
#18
Why do alter boys have centre partings in their hair?

It was the priest that stroked it there with the words " we shall keep this between us " 8O

They will all go to the burny place :twisted:
 
#19
stacker1 said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
stacker1 said:
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.
There are plenty of priests who are not choir boy bottom touchers, just as there are happily married men who rape kids. Nothing to do with relationship status, Just dirty pervs looking for an excuse.

Hey, I'm not trying to defend them and I agree with your post.
But Catholic priests are sworn to celibacy, which must put a strain on what are often young men. Faith might be able to move mountains, but it doesn't stop a bloke waking up with a hardon!
Then they can have a wank, the same as every other man who can't get a shag but doesn't resort to abusing kids.

Its just an excuse to say they were sexually frustrated, they could of just paid a whore (as some popes used to), they chose kids because that is what they like, if they had another profession they still would have targeted kids.
Seconded.

Celibacy has fcuk all to do with Christianity anyway; it was introduced by the Catholic Church to prevent priests from marrying - and so ensure that a priest's money etc became the property of the Church after death.

And being celibate does not cause someone to become a peado, anymore than it would turn a straight man gay.

The real scandel is, of course, that the Catholic Church covered up the systamatic abuse of children by it's priests and nuns for DECADES. And even today refuses to allow the names of the scum who abused children to become public knowledge.

If the Catholic Church EVER had any moral authority, it has lost it now. A pathetic, cowardly, worthless organisation. :evil:
 
#20
Murphy_Slaw said:
Human beings are animals. Animals have instincts/urges. The Catholic church, by denying their priest the chance to marry and have normal relationships have bought this upon themselves.Proof, if any were needed that Darwin was right and religion is a croc of sh1t. It's been going on for centuries in the Catholic church, the cover up has been going on for nearly as long.
I do believe that bum banditry is also against the rules, so your argument falls done there.

Clerical celibacy is the practice in various religious traditions, in which clergy, monastics and those (of either sex) in religious orders adopt a celibate life, refraining from marriage and sexual relationships, including masturbation and "impure thoughts" (such as sexual visualisation and fantasies). Clerical celibacy is practiced mainly by Roman Catholic priests and Eastern and Oriental Orthodox bishops and Eastern Catholic bishops. It has also been the historical norm for Anglo-Catholic priests.
They practice it, but can't succeed by all accounts...
 

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