P8 MMA/MPA thread.

Top call for those who named this airframe.
Not the first choice of airframe for any upcoming visits to Nordholz (home of the Marineflieger P-3 fleet), then.

However, that airframe will probably be the airframe of choice for a visit to the Norwegian P-8 base.
 
Except preserve UK Sovereign jobs and designs.
we don’t have a long range heavy anti ship cruise missile with a secondary land attack capability, so zero jobs or sovereignty to lose.
 
Except why would you have Storm Shadow if:
Storm Shadow is impressive and can be launched from VLS, SPEAR III is coming along nicely, it you won’t hear SOI saying anything positive about British weapon system.
 
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While he was a truly remarkable man, Wg Cdr Reggie Baker DSO DFC* had an equal number of sub kills, namely 3x U-Boats & 1x Italian sub. He was also credited with 3x confirmed air-to-air kills and numerous destroyed surface targets during a career flying Sunderlands, Catalinas, Whirlwinds and Typhoons, until being killed near Carpiquet Airfield in Normandy, on D+10.

 

Boxer96

Old-Salt
It appears that Germany are looking to replace their eight Orion MPA.
From Defense Industry Daily:
"Replacement in Germany According to Reuters
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, the naval air arm of the German Navy will look for a replacement of its P-3C. The service has decided against upgrading the aircraft in favor of buying a new platform, a confidential ministry document reviewed by Reuters showed. It has become expensive to maintain the Orion. The alternatives being evaluated are the C295, RAS 72 and P-8A. "

A huge difference in capability between P-8A and the two twin turbo-props mentioned.
I can only assume that the RAS 72 is in-play is because it has been developed in Germany and has been ordered by the navy of Pakistan.[ The RAS 72 – RAS Special Mission Aircraft]
 
It appears that Germany are looking to replace their eight Orion MPA.
From Defense Industry Daily:
"Replacement in Germany According to Reuters
external link
, the naval air arm of the German Navy will look for a replacement of its P-3C. The service has decided against upgrading the aircraft in favor of buying a new platform, a confidential ministry document reviewed by Reuters showed. It has become expensive to maintain the Orion. The alternatives being evaluated are the C295, RAS 72 and P-8A. "

A huge difference in capability between P-8A and the two twin turbo-props mentioned.
I can only assume that the RAS 72 is in-play is because it has been developed in Germany and has been ordered by the navy of Pakistan.[ The RAS 72 – RAS Special Mission Aircraft]
Surprised that no one's looked at the P1. That and the Atlantique are the only purpose designed MPAs on the block. The others are all modifications of civ aircraft.
 
Tbh, the ability to gtf out of Dodge in a hurry does not lie with turboprop aircraft , nor is the ability to get on station quickly if your covering large areas a long way away.
That rather leaves only P1 and P8.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Tbh, the ability to gtf out of Dodge in a hurry does not lie with turboprop aircraft , nor is the ability to get on station quickly if your covering large areas a long way away.
That rather leaves only P1 and P8.
It's more a case of the mission suite. As @Magic_Mushroom pointed out up-thread, modern submarines are so quiet that if you've not gone top-end you might as well not bother - you're just not going to be able to deal with the threat.

The P-3 and the Atlantique manage very well on props but it's the mission suite capability you're really after.

There's no new-build turboprop on the market at the moment which can do what a P-1/P-8 can in terms of handling the threat. The all-new turboprops are all less-sophisticated maritime patrol aircraft.
 

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