Discussion in 'Health and Fitness' started by wilkie, Jan 6, 2008.

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  1. a mate of mine is serving at presant and done a tour of iraq, been back in the uk about 9 mths, told me the day that he's been having flashback, not sleeping etc..., the job he is doing at the moment is recruiting, working with kids, and he frightend that if he goes to see the doc that they will bin him, what is likely to happen to him?
    cheers in advance guys
  2. Encourage him to go to the doctors/welfare. It doesn't matter if he might get binned at least he will get help now rather than later
  3. Mate,

    He will not get binned, the system is geared up..................Or should i say that fine charity Combat Stress is geared up to deal with this sort of thing.

    If he does not want to report sick due to the fears you mentioned, tell him to give them a call.

    It is confidential and a rep can be sent to have a chat with him and work out a plan.

    He may be advised to liaise with the chain of command (and he has legal back up should he not get the reponse he would like).

    It is better he speaks to the pros, than struggles on.

    He is a soldier and i would hate to think of him living in misery.
  4. Notwithstanding that Combat Stress is indeed a fine charity, if he's serving your mate should be seeing his MO and (if the MO doesn't suggest it) asking to be referred to the nearest (military) Department of Community Mental Health.

    Once referred he will be seen by a specialist psychiatric nurse (like yours truly :wink: ) who is trained specifically to deal with post-trauma issues.

    Unless your mate is Hannibal Lecter's cousin from the old country, he isn't going to get binned or otherwise career-fouled by acknowledging he's got a problem and gripping it.

    Check out LANDSO 3209 to see the Army's current view of operational stress issues.
  5. From my own experience, the sooner he gets help the better. The longer that this illness is left untreated the more miserable his life will be. There is no shame in admitting that you have this illness and it is treatable to the extent that you can continue to have a normal life with its effects under control.

    I know individuals who I believe suffer from PTSD and have been in denial for years. Then there are the others who have sadly taken their own lives, and while there may have been other mitigating circumstances, IMHO the PTSD was a major factor in their decision to end it all. Only those poor tortured souls know the real truth.

    Tell your mate to get help. Happy to receive any PM's on this subject.
  6. All good advice from above however I know from the experience of someone close to me that its often too hard and "Shameful" (daft i know) to go and see a quack. His best help came from a mate who also knew the score about what was bothering him. This gave him the push he needed to speak to a proffessional about it. He still to this day admits that if his mate hadn't have talked to him about it then he'd have never gone within ten miles of the head doc.

    I've just had similar dealings with a mate I was out on Telic with, I like to think we have 'nipped it in the bud' as he has only been to see the quack twice and is already a thousand times better!

    I know its gay and not the army way but if he's your mate and you're in a position to talk about it with him and more to the point "understand" then give it a whirl.
  7. Bad_Crow makes a very good point,

    It is generally having the support of good mates that helps prevent someone from doing the nasty.

    You dont have to have all the answers, very often just being that individual who understands what he has been through and listens without making judgement can be all the help in the world.
  8. Left in 93 and the quack said 'normal reactions to a difficult situation.'
    How the f....k does some spotty faced clown understand what it's like to bring down a regiments worth of MLRS bomblets on a bunch of scared conscripts. And have to drive through the aftermath.
  9. cheers for the quick replys guys, he going to see the civvy doc the morn, and ya right he see's it as not the army way, doesent wanna feel like the soft one, have spoken indepth about his problems, and what is on his mind, he has been great this past week, but tonight he seems to be down again, like a said cheers guys, will keep you informed
  10. My bold.

    I'm going to stress them few little words. If it turns out that he has contacted a platoon of mums and toddlers with a 3xCLAYMORE's do not judge him. He has already been judged and will keep judging himself for the rest of his life without the help of others!
  11. well lads, he saw the doc this morning, doc told to to tell hiss troop comander, he spoke to him, 3 hours later he went to catterick to see the mo, he has got 28 days home sick leave, and 2 app. per week with the psychiatri nusre, so again thanks guys
  12. wilkie you have been a very good and supportive friend to your mate and you have done by far the best thing for him, his family and the Army. Good luck to the guy and let's hope he gets well soon. A soldier of mine took his own life in a gruesomely spectacular way on a night when I was duty officer. The memory haunts me to this day.