Oz/NZ related Covid histrionics thread

Whining Civvy

War Hero
This subject is obviously well covered elsewhere on the site but it might be handy for us to have a local, as it were, thread for antipodean discussions. Let's all just assume that panic shoppers are morons and avoid rehashing that endlessly.

Anyway, I think it's reasonable to say that this flu is dangerous to a very few but a test of character for everyone, and is common with these things the test can throw up some surprising results. Most people I know are being pretty level headed about it, with a few waverers easily brought back into line with a little casual reassurance and a beer, but one surprising failure is my boss, who is obsessed with it and is holding meeting after meeting discussing measures to be taken and rules for this and that to be implemented IMMEDIATELY and contingency plans for shutting the entire place if someone has a sniffle and just generally acting like it's the End Times. I find it weird how almost contagious that frame of mind is, pretty much the entire management team around him have gone from she'll be right, let's be sensible to panicked children in the space of a week, all because of his relentless focus on that one thing. It's not the (necessary) organisation that I take issue with, it's the attitude of barely-controlled panic he spreads around him. He's a grown man ffs.

Odd.

Anyway, to keep it Oz-related: one idea being 'floated' is the the entire workforce 'may' be asked to sign a new contract in which we don't get paid for any time taken off for quarantine. Does anyone know if an employee can be made to sign another contract while still employed under the original one, or can we refuse? I called up Fair Work Australia a few times but got "we are currently experiencing a high volume of calls" messages.
 
Kiwis have made a similar announcement.

'All non-residents will be banned from entering Australia as COVID-19 is spreading globally, according to Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Thursday afternoon.

'To be effective from Friday night, the ban followed declaration of an unprecedented human biosecurity emergency on March 18. Australian citizens will be able to return, but will be subject to a mandatory 14-day self-isolation.

'According to the Department of Health of the Australian government, there have been 565 confirmed cases of COVID-19 as of 6:30 a.m. local time on March 19, a 24% increase from the day before. Of those cases, 259, or 45%, were considered to be overseas acquired.'


 
I had the misfortune to listen to some sheila whining on the radio this morning. She was a teacher concerned that no one was thanking them for doing their job, ie teaching kids and how they were all vulnerable, at risk and unrecognised . it was the most pathetic self indulgent diatribe I have ever heard and i've heard a few. She then went on to say she was currently off sick had been to the the doctor twice and was so so sick. If she was so unwell she would have been admitted to hospital. I suggest a teaspoon of cement every morning to harden the f**k up.
 
....one idea being 'floated' is the the entire workforce 'may' be asked to sign a new contract in which we don't get paid for any time taken off for quarantine. Does anyone know if an employee can be made to sign another contract while still employed under the original one, or can we refuse?
You cannot be compelled to sign a new contract, or indeed any contract.
 
Potential 'special measures' for the NT, with some reasonable justification. It would cause an interesting precedent within the country though; almost a return to the 1970s and 'tick gates' at state borders, as per the notorious one at Wallangarra on the QLD-NSW border.

'The Combined Aboriginal Organisations of Alice Springs on Thursday called for the NT to become a Special Control Area for COVID 19, severely restricting entry to prevent deaths. There are worries about COVID-19 having disastrous effects on remote indigenous communities, whose populations are more vulnerable because of worse health and disadvantage. During the 2009 swine flu outbreak, Aboriginal people comprised 11 per cent of cases while representing only three per cent of the population, and their death rate was six times higher.

"All organisations were really clear that we need to make the entire NT and the tri-state region a Special Control Area for COVID 19," CAO spokeswoman Donna Ah Chee told reporters. "This means that we want to apply the same travel restrictions that apply to international visitors nationally to visitors to the Northern Territory from any Australian jurisdiction." The NT government has put a stop on all work-related interstate travel and to remote indigenous communities, apart from in exceptional circumstances.'


 
Further fractures within the Federation.

'Authorities in South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory are all following Tasmania’s lead and closing their borders.

'Tasmania effectively shut its borders to nonresidents on Thursday by introducing a two-week quarantine period for anyone entering the state. In the wake of stringent new domestic travel restrictions announced today by Prime Minister Scott Morrison, two other states and two territories have followed suit.'


 
I'm certain that news will come as a relief to many!

'Prime Minister Scott Morrison has announced bottle shops will not be forced to close at midday tomorrow along with pubs and other entertainment venues.

'During an extraordinary press conference held tonight shortly after a national cabinet meeting, Mr Morrison said that from midday tomorrow, registered and licensed clubs, licensed premises in hotels and pubs, entertainment venues and cinemas, casinos and nightclubs will all shut, along with cinemas, gyms and indoor sporting venues. Restaurants and cafes will be restricted to takeaway only, and enclosed spaces for funerals will have to observe a tough four square metre rule – which will be enforced.

'But for now at least, bottle-os will remain open.'


 
'Kin 'ell! Anyway, the Top end is vastly over-rated.

'Tasmania, Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia and the Northern Territory have each taken the drastic step of effectively closing their borders and requiring all who enter to quarantine for two weeks to stem the spread of coronavirus. In the Northern Territory, where the rules come into effect at 4pm today, the penalty for noncompliance is a fine of up to $62,800.'

 

Bad Smell

Swinger
As I work for the government we have implemented the whole 14 day isolation if required and the lower level of management is taking an adult view of the whole situation. We are now being updated with both morning and afternoon all organisation emails as well as a separate one relating to all the media reporting. As a whole we are pro-active and have to be. Using common sense in our dealings with the public, so no complaints there.

I have the usual sniffles for the change in the seasons which is quite normal for me at this time of year. Temperature is okay and I have plenty of single malt whisky to self medicate when required.

The local IGA supermarket has a few things low in stock and fresh veg still available so have no need to worry about going hungry. I bought a couple of UHT milk cartons and some odd packets & tins in case I have to self isolate and need the first few days away from people but apart from that business as usual.

Ignoring all the media crap and relying on what comes from with my organisation of which we have a chief medical officer to make informed decisions. We have PPE issued if required and practising good hygiene.

Even though I am being paid I do feel for all the people being forced out of work and have seen a lot of that aready. As a result I feel it only right to "do my bit" and spend more than I usually do to put that little bit extra into the economy and only going out when required.

My reading of the situation is once the borders are fully closed we can then start from "Day One" and start counting down the 14 day isolation cases, give that a bit of a fudge factor in say a month or so and hopefully the infection rates will have stabilised. After that we can then start making informed opinions as to how to move forward and relax restrictions and start to get people back to work whom have been forced to go home. Just my take but the usual selfish idiots will stuff things up.

At the end of the day, I hate to say this but I have trust in the Oz Federal and State governments to do the right thing. Yes they are overreacting to a lot of people but then this thing is still in free fall and any decision they make is always a balancing act between people's safety and keeping the economy going, so the light at the end of the tunnel arrives earlier rather than later.

I am privy to a lot of information that the general public is not but that is only because my organisation is on the front foot in this. Also reading between the lines and accepting criticism that the government may have been slow in acting, if the general public weren't such a bunch of fucktards and did what is recommended then we will beat this sooner.

Oz has enough food so no probs there. Also these clowns, usually Asians wandering around with a mask on everywhere. Medical advice states the appropriate ones are necessary only if you have the virus. If that is the case then you should be at home self isolating you dumb c*nts! The usual cold/flu being the exception.

A good friend runs the maintenance in an aviation company that specialises in medevac work. They carried out the first evacuation flight from Darwin to Brisbane as everyone else was refusing to do so. Doctors and Nurses are not a problem but the pilots are becoming a bit precious. One of mods they are carrying out is a removable barrier between cockpit and cabin on their rotary wing fleet.

So how do I feel about all this? The Chinese are a bunch of c*nts. Always have been and always will. We are now seeing globalisation for what it is and I hope that after this we re-establish some manufacturing and other industries back on shore instead of trying to get the cheapest price. Off shore is not always cheaper anyway.

Friends and family are all well informed and being safe but not too much hardship yet. Apart from that it is pretty much business as usual.

And to all our moozy friends up north. You just keep believing that Allan will save you whilst cuddled up on your prayer mat with your neighbours.
 
Head nail hit. Totally agree with your missive, media trying to have a go at Fed and State governments,teachers union being precious, but most ordinary people just trying to get on with life. i just hope they don't bring the WA alcohol restrictions into South Australia
 

Bad Smell

Swinger
Speaking with one of the managers at Centrelink (dole office) today and some numpty walks into the Browns Plains office around midday. Said numpty just happens to have returned from overseas, wants to put in a claim and is COVID-19 positive.

Result - Office shut and everyone on 14 days self isolation.

Why do I immediately think Asian or Islander?

So far claims in excess of 300,000 and some of their offices will be open on the weekend. Most offices are opening longer and staff staying back to process claims.

And the funny thing is they are now recruiting.
 
Its getting serious now Dan Murphy's have put a limit on what you can buy in one visit. Only 6 slabs WTF
Not surprised, there's a DM next to the bait shop I use........there were queues around the block and, I shit you not, a security guard at the door.
 
This subject is obviously well covered elsewhere on the site but it might be handy for us to have a local, as it were, thread for antipodean discussions. Let's all just assume that panic shoppers are morons and avoid rehashing that endlessly.

Anyway, I think it's reasonable to say that this flu is dangerous to a very few but a test of character for everyone, and is common with these things the test can throw up some surprising results. Most people I know are being pretty level headed about it, with a few waverers easily brought back into line with a little casual reassurance and a beer, but one surprising failure is my boss, who is obsessed with it and is holding meeting after meeting discussing measures to be taken and rules for this and that to be implemented IMMEDIATELY and contingency plans for shutting the entire place if someone has a sniffle and just generally acting like it's the End Times. I find it weird how almost contagious that frame of mind is, pretty much the entire management team around him have gone from she'll be right, let's be sensible to panicked children in the space of a week, all because of his relentless focus on that one thing. It's not the (necessary) organisation that I take issue with, it's the attitude of barely-controlled panic he spreads around him. He's a grown man ffs.

Odd.

Anyway, to keep it Oz-related: one idea being 'floated' is the the entire workforce 'may' be asked to sign a new contract in which we don't get paid for any time taken off for quarantine. Does anyone know if an employee can be made to sign another contract while still employed under the original one, or can we refuse? I called up Fair Work Australia a few times but got "we are currently experiencing a high volume of calls" messages.
Without going into the legal definition of a contract, in short it is a mutual agreement - you give them X in exchange for Y. If you have a contract you do not need to sign another contract if you are happy with what you are getting. They may not be happy with what they are getting, but that is a problem for them.

Just make sure they cannot fire you. Oh yeah, and being fired for not signing a new contract is a pointer for legal action and compensation.
 
booze lowers your immune system,

I've cut my drinking back just in case...
 
I bagged out on sweetlip over the weekend.
Send key settings, over.

stand by, (check thread), stand by.

don't fheckin bother.

Small island on wrong side of planet, WGAS?
just don't infect the interesting wildlife (kangapigs, koapossums, funnel web bankmanagers, etc)
 
booze lowers your immune system,

I've cut my drinking back just in case...
Crikey, I got it all wrong.
I had increased mine to BAOR levels.

Minus the yellow handbags (yuck)

Only.thing I really miss is apfelkorn.


Just have to use Jura instead.
 
VB is truly horse piss, not as bad as that Furphy that CUB are pushing out now. I stick to Coopers Pale in in the warmer months & Coopers Stout in the colder weather
 

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