Out-of-shape soldiers a 'national threat': Obesity expert

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  1. Sun News : Out-of-shape soldiers a 'national threat': Obesity expert

    Out-of-shape soldiers a 'national threat': Obesity expert


    MONTREAL - Obesity in the Canadian Forces is becoming a "national threat," an obesity expert warns.

    Dr. Arya M. Sharma of the University of Alberta told QMI Agency that he has received warnings first-hand from military officials about out-of-shape soldiers.

    A 2008 survey found that nearly one-quarter of Canadian soldiers had body mass indexes greater 30, the World Health Organization's obesity threshold.

    "Their work makes it difficult to control their weight," said Dr. Sharma, chair in Obesity Research and Management at the Edmonton-based university.

    "If they don't have enough time to eat, their lunch will be bigger. Stress or boredom can lead them to eat."

    The Canadian Forces has invested in personal trainers while implementing weight-control guidelines to combat the problem.

    "It's a concern within the chain of command," admits Daryl Allard, Canadian Forces director of fitness.

    He said an obese soldier finds it much more difficult to pass physical tests.

    The annual tests require soldiers to lift sandbags and run an obstacle course while carrying a load.

    Any member who fails the test is given three additional attempts over a six-month period.

    If the soldier fails again, they must submit to another test that assesses their ability to perform common tasks such as digging trenches, piling sandbags and carrying a stretcher.

    It's very rare for a soldier to fail the simpler test but if they do, they might be discharged from the forces.

    Soldiers train for an hour a day, five days a week during working hours.

    To facilitate recruitment, the forces eliminated an enrolment test.

    The test is now given only when a recruit is accepted into the Army and begins their training.

    This change allows the forces "to recruit highly qualified specialists ... who might otherwise not be able to enrol because of their lack of fitness," Army spokeswoman Michele Tremblay said.


    Obese people are less likely to be hired or promoted
    They often have a lack motivation
    Stigma can cause overeating and inactivity
    Thin, sedentary people with poor eating habits can have poorer health than overweight people
    -- Source: Equilibre
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  2. High BMI =/= obese
  3. Statistically speaking, there's a fairly high correlation between them though.
  4. True
  5. You get an extra 2 minutes in my old fart age group for the same distance on the run. Lucky bastards.
  6. Yup,Lawrence d'Lalliglio,Jason Leonard,and I should think a large number of other Rugby players..........all clinically obese. :\\\\

    BMI.......Load of Bollocks,anyone who bases their weight loss regime on this bit of hokum,is in for a hard time.

    Cheaper method,use scales,and a tape measure.........and speak to your doctor. ;-)
  7. I'm only just in the 'Normal' rather than 'Overweight' BMI bit on the chart, am 6'2" and of a very normal build for the Army. The BMI chart is a load of shite.
  8. You can measure it in different ways for sure. Even the NHS calculator goes out of its way to point out that muscular fellows will have a higher BMI than others. But mostly, it's spot on and hardly hokum.

    I'm 11 st 10 at 5' 10". I fit into 32 jeans and when I look in the mirror I see a guy who's in good shape but a little bit soft - no defined abs, but great in a tight fitting t shirt.

    That's precisely what the BMI calculator tells me. I'm in the top 1/3 of what's considered healthy weight. When I get a bit further down the green bit of the bar, into the bottom 1/3 I expect to start looking ripped. (around ten percent body fat)

    So it's spot ******* on if you ask me.

    BMI healthy weight calculator - Health tools - NHS Choices
  9. A lot of squaddies are in that bracket though because you eat pies. My recollection of your average squaddie was fit blokes who didn't pay much attention to eating ... which would land a fella there right enough.

  10. Of course it is but,you didn't mention your age.....which tends to **** up the calculation.

    I'm 66,14st,6'1",34" waist.......check it out,overweight..........it doesn't take into consideration,44" chest......no 6 pack,more like a yellow handbag.....but I don't drink,or smoke,gym 3 times a week,and am mistaken for 10 years younger.

    Oh,I forgot to say,resting heart rate 54 bpm.

    I say again.....BMI load of bollocks,there are better ways of calculating your fitness ;-)
  11. Must be all those big macs and poutine...:)

  12. Sounds spot on to me.You're 3" taller and 2st heavier - that's a fair bit heavier for 3", so the top end of 'right' sounds bob on. I bet you look in the mirror and see He-Man when you are a bit portly with spaghetti arms, you old duffer. ;-)

    I'm 38 by the way.

    I wonder if there's a thread in this?
  13. Don't look in mirrors (I'm an ugly bastard),and I do consider myself a bit 'rotund' but,anyone who knows what they're talking about will tell you......BMI doesn't take into consideration,heavy musculature in athletes,or lack of muscle,and an increase in body fat in older people,give it another 10 years and you'll see what I mean. ;-)

    Get yourself a good Heart Rate Monitor,and use it properly when exercising.......much better than leaping on,and of scales
    ,and you keep the most important muscle in good shape! :clap:

    My problem is.......a hip replacement that precludes,high impact so,no running or aerobics,so I 'walk with a purpose'.......2 miles in 27 minutes,with a 3 degree incline (the Trance music on my walkman helps :) ).

    Try it,your heart will love you!
  14. I see what you mean now - you mean that BMI has little to do with fitness and you are quite right. Fitness can't really be measured by body fat % - but of course it does have a bearing, along with other things.
  15. Fat soldiers should headbutt PPIEDs.

    The fat *****.
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