Our Political Masters' Aims for HM Forces? Easy ££ cuts or is there more to it?

Discussion in 'The Intelligence Cell' started by tom_dkg, Jul 19, 2011.

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  1. Recent events have made me wonder at the real aims of politicians, who these days largely give the impression of wishing to be our political masters, and not our servants?

    If a society's population is encouraged or helped to contribute to society as it can within its abilities, a state has a buffer for its citizens with problems to help them through short times of difficulty in their lives, and looks after those who genuinely cannot, education is genuinely geared to providing opportunity and real achievement, those who act against society are caught, deterred and punished, and, above all, hard work, diligence and achievement is rewarded, my view is that such a country would have a place as a world leader, be financially secure, would attract world investment, and be able to constantly improve its technologies to profit all.

    Looking at relatively recent "trends" as I see them:

    1) education - standards lowered at all levels; most recent example being a company having to provide literacy training for its staff to write simple advertisements.

    2) public service sector - geared to a strange mix of looking after its own employees, followed by the rights of near any minority you could name, whilst increasingly merely acting as low-level co-ordinators in dishing out public money to private sector firms of very varying quality; whilst reducing services to the majority of a working population.

    3) immigration policies - have been deliberately geared to allowing chaos to form and have effectively put huge and unfair loads on services such as education, health and the policing and justice system.

    4) defence - has been allowed to generate huge voids of money, in hundreds of billions of pounds, in the investigation of which losses the government appears to have no real interest; whilst major policies of a government appear to be now geared to how many hundreds of millions they can save by cutting Regular Army soldier posts.

    5) industry - killed by our government's lack of realism on H&S, the environment etc. Why would you make stuff in the UK if you can get it done in India or Taiwan?

    6) nation - how closely and how quietly were we propelled to HM's Sovereignty being planned as subservient to some elected (wait, not elected, appointed!), President of Europe? More gravy train jobs for politicians!

    Is it indeed stability and the well-being of the nation what our politicians aim for, or are they simply largely on a personal gravy train, needing chaos, smoke screens and mirrors to hide behind, whilst having no concern for Great Britain and its citizens?

    My proposal is that politicians do NOT want real problems solved. If they can, for example, cut the Regular Army and replace needs with TA, they will have no concern that the best who do join the TA will become unemployable by small firms, who could not afford it, or large firms, who could not afford it. As for medium sized firms.....

    And by the time that they work out training and support costs as well as all additional costs will not stay cheap, but will grow and grow, there will be another set of troughers in The House of Commons to sort that problem!

    Indeed, if my cynical views hold water, the first and most sensible place in the country to seriously appraise costs and benefits would appear to be Westminster.
  2. QUOTE "..........Indeed, if my cynical views hold water, the first and most sensible place in the country seriously to appraise costs and benefits would appear to be Westminster".

    Nothing cynical about your views at all. Everything you say is true and accurate. I just wish you had been Leader of the Opposition to the failed, inept oaf Brown and that you, as Prime Minister had translated your views into reality and action.
  3. 'Tis all a Marxist plot to undermine the UK, actively encouraged by the stinking, political fornicators in the EU, and by our own home grown Fifth Column of Liberal Lefties who not only hate themselves, but everything and everybody else......

    "The Fabians, the Round Table, and the Rhodes Scholars: "The secret goal of the Fabian Society was to create a godless, classless, socialistic society that was dedicated to the ultimate victory of Socialism which really meant Communism. In 1891, they became affiliated with the Second Socialist International (established in 1889), and helped establish a Democratic Socialist state in Great Britain. [See The Grasp of Socialist International]"

    "The aims of the Fabian Society were developed by [Sidney] Webb from what Englishman John Ruskin (1819-1900) taught at Oxford University....The Fabians were working towards a new world by indoctrinating young scholars who would eventually rise to power in various policy-making positions throughout the world by infiltrating educational institutions, government agencies, and political parties. Their strategy was called the 'doctrine of inevitability of gradualism,' which meant that their goals would be gradually achieved.... The secret was evolution, not revolution, or what Webb called 'permeation.' Shaw (whose mistress, Florence Farr, was a witch in the Order of the Golden Dawn), revealed that their goal was to be achieved by 'stealth, intrigue, subversion, and the deception of never calling Socialism by its right name.'...

    "In 1905, American Fabians established the Rand School of [Social Science] in New York City. On September 12, 1905, five of the Fabians met at Peck's Restaurant in New York's Lower Manhattan: Upton Sinclair (well-known author and socialist), Jack London (well-known fiction writer), Rev. Thomas Wentworth Higginson (a Unitarian minister), J.G. Phelps Stokes, and Clarence Darrow (legendary lawyer). They incorporated the Intercollegiate Socialist Society for the purpose of promoting 'an intelligent interest in socialism among college men and women,' and established chapters at Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, New York University, and the University of Pennsylvania. Their true purpose was to begin de-Christianizing America. One of its founding members was John Dewey, the father of progressive education, whose philosophy consisted of 'atheism, socialism and evolution.'"

    The Hidden Control of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

    Of course, I might just be a tad Victor Meldrew at times. It's just at times, I suffer from acute verbal diarrhea or intellectual constipation in equal doses......