OTC pay

#2
Mate you're a bit behind the curve here...go check the last weeks worth of posts on the TA forum..;)

S_R
 
#7
Not any more they don't

And yes Im sure Ill "get over it" but the money was handy, might have to get a bar job or something now. It doesn't help the bbc talking about the 300m overbudget standard for large purchases. But I understand regulars could dislike the otc being paid anyway.
:!: And yes the TA is a bigger problem and regulars should get all they need. :!:
 
#9
IMHO the OTC are getting off pretty lightly. OK we won't be getting paid until April, but at least we can carry on with C1 training. And those who genuinely want to go for a commission will still be supported through the selection process. Yes, the lack of money is a blow (the student loan doesn't stretch very far), but i think people will be suprised just how many Ocdts the OTCs manage to retain during this. For the majority of us the OTC is about a lot more than the money. Most TA units are not even getting C1 training
 
#10
gun-bunny said:
IMHO the OTC are getting off pretty lightly. OK we won't be getting paid until April, but at least we can carry on with C1 training. And those who genuinely want to go for a commission will still be supported through the selection process. Yes, the lack of money is a blow (the student loan doesn't stretch very far), but i think people will be suprised just how many Ocdts the OTCs manage to retain during this. For the majority of us the OTC is about a lot more than the money. Most TA units are not even getting C1 training
If we could get to training areas yes, but it looks like the cost of transport will be excessive. Any suggestions anyone?
 
#11
there is still a budget for transport, accommodation and feeding - these aspects should not be affected, at most your unit may have to cut out a couple of weekends, or train within the local area
 
#12
It all depends on who your CO is and who is in charge at Brigade. I personally am not going to leave, but I think a lot of the new intake this year might leave, without the pay incentive.
I suppose it is time to roll out the "it's character building" and "SOLIDC chaps".
I have a feeling the regs are happy that we aren't getting paid, but some of us put in a lot of effort. We aren't all useless C***s.

Rfn_B
 
#13
*shrugs* it's a bugger, but I swore an oath to the queen, and though that may only be through the OTC, I still took the oath and quitting would be turning my back on that. And of course, it's a great laugh, and being payed was a bonus in the first place. Also, the money saved here is going to the frontline and regulars and if we were to whinge, it'd be like bitching that the regs are being favoured over us -- quite right too. Our OTC unanimously chose to carry on C1 anyway. So yes, not getting pay is a bugger, as it would have been quite useful for uni costs etc, but OTC is so worthwhile in so many otherways, and the staff, even TA ones, are not giving up, so why sould we?
 
#14
Aye that is something important that we should keep in mind, all the TA training staff who are still willing to come in and train us without getting paid themselves. We are all in this together. There is so much more to OTC than money; it's for the banter, friends and s**t duties aswell.

Rfn_B
 
#16
At least the OTC's get C1 Trg! I should think so - it is unpaid after all.

The constraints to your training will be staff to train you, staff to drive and feed you and availability of Tpt, Rations and Equipt as well as Trg Facilities and Trg Areas.

If you l you look at the "Any Ideas for C1 Trg Thread", you will see lots of TA guys struggling to find a way through the Paid Trg ban.

I know from my OTC contacts that most of your OTC TA staff will give up their time - on this occasion to facilitate your training. It is however, I suspect a one off - if the army were to try this C1 malarky next year it will be a different story.

Bear in mind how many of your TA Staff have regular and Op Tour Experience, they stick with it this time out of loyalty to you guys and to their Units. That loyalty has been severely tested. Most of your command will have busy jobs, family and other commitments.

I know this well, I too have committed by time on C1 over this period and give more time than most - I will not be a mug if this Cat A Trg ban happens again.

And remember despite all this doom and gloom, the army is a great experience and career.

I laud you guys who say you will soldier on - especially in the difficult financial circumstances that most students face these days. It is worth hanging in there.


By the way"

Don't vote Labour!!! Kick Cyclops and that Non Entity of a Def Sec Out!!

Regards

Muttley
 
#17
A quick show of hands was done at our last drill night to see how many first year cadets would show up for training despite the lack of pay and all but 2 were up for it. All the instructors decided it would still be worth doing the training.

Anyone know how this will affect MLDP1 for first years?
 
#18
meatbag said:
A quick show of hands was done at our last drill night to see how many first year cadets would show up for training despite the lack of pay and all but 2 were up for it. All the instructors decided it would still be worth doing the training.

Anyone know how this will affect MLDP1 for first years?
It depends if there are any changes to the syllabus so if its kept to, the answer is none
 
#19
The fact that you can get out and train is a blessing in these times. For those of you prepared to make the sacrifice and stick it out, to become potential leaders of soldiers, then I commend you and sincerely hope you get the best out of a bad situation.....after all this situation won't exist forever!

Makes me wish I was back in the OTC, just to get out into the field.

To the original poster of the very first comment on this thread, complaining about the situation shows your arrogance and your lack of Moral Courage. I suggest you go sit in the corner and think about how idiots like you tarnish the reputation of those within the OTC.

You are certainly not fit to lead.....so why don't you go work in Mc Donalds.
 
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