OTC members What do you think of capbadges? Should we keep the individual unit badges or adopt a suitable battalion/regiment capbadge e.g. ULOTC the Guards perhaps Exeter the RIFLES Cambridge R ANGLIANS perhaps.
Yeah, agreed. Even though some of the units havenât been around all that long there are some with history dating back to the late 1800s. As said its not ACF, OTCs have a right to be identified as such.
The only reason that ULOTC got a Garter Star in its cap badge is because the first adjutant was a woodentop. Peronsally I liked it, but if there was a change then the only one it could conceivably change to is the RMAS cap badge, which you will see knocking about some OTCs now with DE TA Ocdts wearing it when they pass through on MTQ2 training weekends.
I was always proud of my mad pig cap badge when I was OTC. Always be proud of your unit both present and past. If anyone suggested my old lot changing then there would be a lot of people now in high places who would quite rightly kick up a bit of a stink...
It depends on the OTC. Some of the larger ones didn't allow it as it would mean a ridiculous plethora of cap badges on offer. However, although it can lead to pseudo-Waltism and undoubted unearned regimental snobbery, it is a harmless practice than undoubtedly aids regimental recruiting.
As someone said, some of these are nearly 150 years old, far older than most of the line and corps capbadges around at the moment. The NUOTC (formerly DUOTC) cap badge of St Cuthbert's cross is the only regimental capbadge with a clear affiliation to that region now. The Birmingham UOTC (as it then was) cap badge was good enough for Bill Slim, so it should be bloody well good enough for anyone.
I don't know yet, although it is good to be different, I just get the sense that the only reason why we are doing it is because the CO wants to make a mark on the unit.
It would carry more weight if only welsh inf wore the khaki but Foot Guards, Honourable Artillery Company, Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, Royal Anglian Regiment, Green Howards all wear them too. If you see a tam-o-shanter you assume scot a cuabeen Irish but a khaki beret you just think well thatâs different.
Thatâs not too say that the new beret doesnât bring a sense of identity and pride its just has it been brought in for the right reasons also they should change the colour of the cap badge to silver as gold on khaki looks wan k.
Open to any other WUOTC to say how you feel about the new beret.
I like the new colour, but I too cant help but shake the feeling that its because the CO wants to make his mark. whilst it is understandable that he wants his unit to be diferent and better than every other OTC (Except, of course, London, but thats only because theyre bigger) I suspect that its just oneupmanship... however, we do have the most TASO's, the largest camp in OTC history (except, of course, London, but thats only because... etc)
I think that OTC should continue to be considered to be a corps within its own right rather than being badged to any particular regiment. Similar in sense I suppose to the status of corps such as RE or RA. The reasoning behind this argument being that OTC O/C end up within a variety or regiments the way the "corps" do within the army. i.e. members of signals, engineers etc can be attached to any regiment requiring their services.
One argument that I would be particularly interested in is the creation of a UOTC badge that was used by every UOTC unit around the country. We must be one of, if not the only, part of the army that has 19 different cap badges...i.e. every unit having there own badge.
I would also like to see some kind of unified rank structure within the OTC. Nearly every UOTC I met has their own local variation of the common structure.