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Osbourne- warns parents on benefits

#1
Well we have heard it all before, I hope that Osbourne will make working better off than benefits.....I am looking forward to the Libdem coalition fall out over this one, as the libdems don't like upsetting people.

So the Poorest and the vunerable can get a job now!! you sponging bastards!!
 
#2
Do bore off Osbourne, and while you're at it, tell your Millionaire mate Dave to repay all the disability benefits he claimed but is now slashing for the disabled.
 
#5
Aye & about time they sorted out the economic migrants & NHS tourists too.
I was Darn Sarff over the weekend, glorious sussex! I was talking to a taxi driver (English, white) about why there are so many foreigners working around the area, he said that the locals were "too faking lazy to do any of these jobs", most he comes across are on benefits. he say's "I work hard for the little I get"

So if we do get rid of "johnny foreigner" who's going to replace them?
 
#7
So if we do get rid of "johnny foreigner" who's going to replace them?
The twats that are bleeding the benefits system dry.

But when I said economic migrants I had the likes of the Romanians etc in mind who come just to claim benefits.
 
#11
Sunami, I am not defending JF here, but its just not them who are sponging, we also have our home grown as well...and all the ***** should be made to work!
That's what i said "The twats that are bleeding the benefits system dry."

I don't give a feck whether they are black, white or polka dot.
 
#15
Sunami, I am not defending JF here, but its just not them who are sponging, we also have our home grown as well...and all the ***** should be made to work!
Whilst I have come across many scroungers and professional doleites, if there are no jobs how can those who want to actually work? Yes, there are loads of jobs around but usually attract 100s of applicants for each post. No good saying "make them sweep the streets" as wouldn't that put all those who actually sweep the streets out of a job?
It will be very difficult to judge who the professional doley is and who the genuine case is. 800 jobs to be lost by those working for Aviva, another 800 lost by Unilever, even those shelf stacking in Supevalu stores are to lose their jobs. I would suggest that not many of those are actually professional scroungers but will get lumped in with the feckless.
Perhaps, like some other countries (including those in the EU so it can't break EU rules) we should introduce benefits paid depending on contributions paid. In Spain, benefits last for 6 months depending on the amount of Social Security payments you have made. After that, benefits are still paid but the whole household income is taken into account. Only one member of the household can claim the benefits (unlike inks and his ilk claiming about 10 lots per squat) which is capped at 2/3 the average income.
 
#16
You have to find a way to separate the can'ts from the won'ts. If 800,000 Poles can turn up and find work it is only because 800,000 Brits cannot bother their arses to do the jobs.
 
#17
I hope that Osbourne will make working better off than benefits.....
Only really one way to do that: make wages a better bet for supporting a family than benefits.

Given the numbers claiming top-up benefits in addition to their wages, I'm betting that's not going to meet with the support of employers since it'll mean them putting hand in pocket to up wages instead of the government.
 
#19
He also wants those already working to be able to be screwed over more too "The new owner-employee contract allows owners to award shares worth up to £50,000 to their staff, in return for the employee giving up their unfair dismissal, redundancy and training rights and also the right to ask for flexible working. "
BBC News - Tory conference: George Osborne in £10bn benefit cut vow
So you go from lots of employer rights to having a £2,000 to £50,000 stake in the company you work for. Hmmmm, interesting idea. Company goes bust, you loss your job and nothing changes , Company breaks thro, makes a mint and you get paid dividends and it's tax free...

"Staff would be offered £2,000 to £50,000 in their company's shares but would relinquish their rights to claim unfair dismissal, statutory redundancy pay, requesting flexible working and asking for longer parental leave.


He said the 'radical change to employment law' would see employees given shares in the business in exchange for sacrificing old rights of unfair dismissal and redundancy with new rights of ownership.

The government will not charge capital gains tax the profits made on the shares, in a scheme dubbed Beecroft-lite."

That could be an interesting challenge. Given HRA I suspect that would be tricky one to set up and run.
 

CountryGal

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#20
Only really one way to do that: make wages a better bet for supporting a family than benefits.

Given the numbers claiming top-up benefits in addition to their wages, I'm betting that's not going to meet with the support of employers since it'll mean them putting hand in pocket to up wages instead of the government.
Agree with this - As a single mum I actually am worse off by working, I would have around £256 a month more income if i give up my job and claimed benefits.

Wheres the encouragement to work in that?
 

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