Op Fresco (Pt 94)

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Mr_Fingerz, Feb 16, 2006.

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  1. Mr_Fingerz

    Mr_Fingerz LE Book Reviewer

    According to Aunty, some of Pugh, Pugh, Barney MacGrew, Cuthbert, Dibble and Grub's chums are after another extended holiday http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4719184.stm ((c) BBC News).

    Can anyone remind me how to spell "over-stretch"?
  2. Watch and wait on this one. A letter was sent to the ODPM about it before it got this far. Don't expect to get stretched too far this time! Bailing out the firemen with what is essentially a full firefighting service is going to become part of our history, and the public will realise that we are not the 4th emergency service - if it goes pearshaped, then the blame will fall fair and square on the doorstep of the FBU. They wouldn't want yobs and thugs putting fires out for them anyway (but we could always hope that a certain Times journo leaves his chip pan on too long!)
  3. So why exactly are these bastards allowed to go on strike anyway? We have laws in this country to prevent the Police and Armed Forces from striking - why not the Fire Service too?
  4. Buuut they do have those nifty flame caps though :D

    The whole point of the strike is that it should be a weapon of last resort, whereas nowadays it seems to have become a weapon of first reasort :(
  5. I say crack on, and remind me what did you achieve on the last strike, apart from getting the publics back up.
  6. Pompeysailor is right. MoD sent a letter to ODPM telling Prescott in effect that they weren't going to bail him out on anything like the scale of Fresco. Now consider this if you will:

    Scenario 1: Prescott plays hard-ball with one of the last unreconstructed unions in the UK. He runs a risk of a strike with hardly any cover (and therefore possible fatalities), but says there's an even greater risk in overstretching the armed forces. We run with virtually no fire brigade. Any resultant casualties are put squarely at the door of the brothers in the FBU.

    Scenario 2: exactly the same as 1, but no fatalities. After several weeks of strike (whether selective or all-out) nothing has happened. Prescott can then say that the brothers' bluff has been well and truly called. They're not an essential service after all, and they can put their demands where the sun doesn't shine. Result: final defeat of the FBU.

    I'm just wondering whether Prescott will have the bottle.
  7. :roll:

    So, with this thinking, any proposal - be it good or bad - will be attacked for the chance that if the FBU kick a big enough stink, they'll get more than offered in the first place?
  8. I seem to recall that the last time we covered their rounds, the military system actually improved response times to shouts.
  9. You have to wonder what would happen if Prescott turned round to the FBU and said 'There is absolutely no way you are going to get more than the Forces got'...
  10. d_s not in milton keynes we didn't mate, 2 weeks, only 3 fires - 1 burnt out matterss, 1 small car fire and 1 where some bloke put his pizza in the oven still in its cardboard box! It was the most boring thing I've ever done in my life (and I've done a Tiffy course) made worse by the fact that we watched the first rounds going down in the TA centre whilst on call AND by the fact that a basic firefighter was after more money than almost all of those called on to cover them. Shiisters