OP EMBROIL - RMP investigation into online sales of kit

Serving soldiers who sell equipment should be.......

  • Applauded for their resourcefulness

    Votes: 13 21.7%
  • Given time in Colly to reflect - and discharged SNLR

    Votes: 31 51.7%
  • Taken out and shot, charged for the rounds and then discharged

    Votes: 10 16.7%
  • Excused sick parade as they only fell from grace following their tough Herrick tour....

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • Spoken to quite harshly and promise to be good in future.

    Votes: 6 10.0%

  • Total voters
    60
  • Poll closed .

Goatman

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#1
Couldn't find a thread on this* so here y'go, for those who may not have seen :

Stolen military hardware being sold-off on eBay - Crime - UK - The Independent

A military police team is trawling internet auction sites to catch thieves trying to sell stolen defence equipment online. The widespread theft of uniform, weapons and tools is costing at least £50,000 a month, and much of it ends up on sites such as eBay.

Last year, Operation Embroil, the military police team monitoring sites such as eBay, discovered 107 cases where military kit was being sold illegally online. According to latest figures, 17 additional cases have arisen since the start of the year.

Whitehall sources say ministers fear some of the most dangerous equipment could fall into the hands of organised criminal gangs and terrorists. Military items available to buy on eBay this weekend include gas masks, antenna kits, rucksacks, body armour, flight helmets and vests, night vision goggles and global positioning equipment. One problem for investigators is identifying which items are commercially available, and which could only have come from Ministry of Defence supplies.

Last year, the MoD referred 361 reported thefts to police. Ministers have admitted that "in many cases a suspected perpetrator is not identified or there is insufficient evidence to pursue a prosecution". A list of almost 600 items stolen between March 2011 and January 2012 included catalytic converters worth £32,000, tools worth £35,000, radio equipment costing £15,000, night vision goggles worth up to £4,000, generators worth more than £7,000 and weapons sights valued at more than £8,000. Other items included laptops, radios, ceremonial swords helmets, sheds shoes, an X-Box 360 and a dinghy.

Luciana Berger, the Labour MP who obtained the details of the thefts, said: "I couldn't believe the amount of stuff that could be stolen across MoD sites. Put together it could be used to cause some serious damage... when money needs to be put on the frontline, the MoD needs to do more to stop stuff going missing in the first pace, before it ends up on eBay."

Since 2008, Operation Embroil has arrested 70 people, of whom 15 were successfully prosecuted, 17 cautioned and a number referred for Service disciplinary procedures.

An MoD spokesperson said: "Our frontline forces deserve the best possible kit, and action will be taken against those who deprive them of that. That is why we have successfully targeted the internet sale of MoD equipment.... By the end of 2010 it was estimated [we had] recovered and prevented theft worth more than £1.3m."

A former paratrooper, Warrant Officer Allan Peet, was given a 10-month prison sentence in 2010 for handling stolen MoD equipment and selling it on eBay. Items included day sacks and military issue footwear, hydration systems and ration packs, which he sold for a total of £6,500.

In 2009, three men were jailed for a total of 10 years for their part in a plot to sell components of an F-14 Tomcat fighter jet to Iran, after sourcing the parts from eBay
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* apart from this one of course...d'oh! http://www.arrse.co.uk/military-clothing-boots/174067-monkeys-e-bay.html
 
#2
Erm, an X Box 360? What's the MoD doing with one of them which is so vital to the nations security?

Just a thought.


Sent from my iPhone using ARRSE so I should probably be working....
 
#4
Erm, an X Box 360? What's the MoD doing with one of them which is so vital to the nations security?Just a thought. Sent from my iPhone using ARRSE so I should probably be working....
Just possibly it was purchased with welfare funds for soldiers deploying to operational theatres. Nation's security? No, probably not. Important to morale? Definitely.
 

Goatman

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#5
Erm, an X Box 360? What's the MoD doing with one of them which is so vital to the nations security?

Just a thought.


Sent from my iPhone using ARRSE so I should probably be working....
you're a Man City supporter you say ? Just a thought....nuff said really....
 
#6
Go on any pussers war canoe and in the mess decks you'll find xbox 360's or nintendo wii's
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#7
I don't think that Bdr 'Fingers' McCafferty or LCpl 'Pockets' Pollard will be sweating much though...

Military police


PS. If anybody's looking for a reasonably priced X Box...you know the drills.

PPS. And before any of the Monkey's have a pop...don't shoot the messenger. It's not his fault that your investigations 'lack rigour'.
 
#8
I'm going to sell a tin of SAS paint, Boathouse, for the use of,

Highest bidder will find out what colour it is when they open it.[taps side of nose]
 
#9
Erm, an X Box 360? What's the MoD doing with one of them which is so vital to the nations security?
Budget cuts. it's how initial flying training is conducted now.
 
#10
I don't think that Bdr 'Fingers' McCafferty or LCpl 'Pockets' Pollard will be sweating much though...Military policePS. If anybody's looking for a reasonably priced X Box...you know the drills.PPS. And before any of the Monkey's have a pop...don't shoot the messenger. It's not his fault that your investigations 'lack rigour'.
That link is totally inaccurate and should not be used when referring to military police crime clear up figures. It clearly states that RMP clear up rates are 'no better than that of Inspector Clouseau'. I have seen every single Pink Panther film and I think you will find that Inspector Clouseau always gets his man - therefore surely his clear up rate is 100%. The clear up rate of the RMP however..............................................
 
#11
I think it's pretty well established the RMP couldn't solve a dot to dot drawing of a straight line.
 
#13
Bugger! Will I get away with listing my sugar bag shorts, issue Spitfires and scratchy green long johns? I've been waiting for decades for the trail to go cold.

Won't be selling my puttees, though. Oh no, sirree.

As an aside, I saw some military gear on ebay about 5 years ago. The chap had taken photographs of the stuff in his back garden, which was quite clearly a quarter, at Yeovilton. A bit of Google Earthing later I was taking a peek in his back yard.

(And, no, I didn't.)
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#14
That link is totally inaccurate and should not be used when referring to military police crime clear up figures. It clearly states that RMP clear up rates are 'no better than that of Inspector Clouseau'. I have seen every single Pink Panther film and I think you will find that Inspector Clouseau always gets his man - therefore surely his clear up rate is 100%. The clear up rate of the RMP however..............................................
We're waiting.
 
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Biscuits_AB

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#15
I think it's pretty well established the RMP couldn't solve a dot to dot drawing of a straight line.
That's total uncalled for.

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#16
That's total uncalled for.

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Is it a rhombus?
 
#18
Since 2008, Operation Embroil has arrested 70 people, of whom 15 were successfully prosecuted, 17 cautioned and a number referred for Service disciplinary procedures.
17 successful prosecutions since 2008? How many plod are in this Super Counter-eBay naughty squaddie nailing team? I've help solve more crimes than that! :)
 
#19
17 successful prosecutions since 2008? How many plod are in this Super Counter-eBay naughty squaddie nailing team? I've help solve more crimes than that! :)
Ask the MDP as it is their Op, nothing to do with RMP
 
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