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If I have it remotely right, the Fenian/Republican movement was founded by an Ulster Protestant.

Beyond that, all things are possible . . .
You are correct. Modern revolt against British Rule began in the 18th century and led to the much later formation of the IRB and IRA (and a few others in between) had little to do with religion. The United Irishmen, of which Theobold Wolfe Tone was a founder member and Protestant, was a non sectarian organization that aimed to secure an equal representation of all the people of the Kingdom of Ireland in the national government.

As for the GAA, its Constitution states at para 1.12:

Anti-Sectarian/Anti-Racist The Association is Anti-Sectarian, Anti-Racist and committed to the principles of inclusion and diversity at all levels. Any conduct by deed, word, or gesture of sectarian or racist nature or which is contrary to the principles of inclusion and diversity against a player, official, spectator or anyone else, in the course of activities organised by the Association, shall be deemed to have discredited the Association.

The Fenians (aka IRB) emerged in the 19th century and were banned in Britain and its overseas territories. Nevertheless, they evolved in North America and there were numerous Fenian Brotherhood raids into British assets in Canada. Interestingly, the Rifle Brigade took part in operations in Canada against the Brotherhood between 1860s-70s. Many of the Fenians were US Civil War veterans. It was overtly sectarian primarily because, like all immigrants everywhere, the Irish tended to settle in like minded groups and there was a tendency for Protestant settlers, especially in Canada, to favour the Crown.

The animosity between Catholics and Protestants in Irish affairs had more to do with the way they treated each other, in war and in peace, rather than because of their different church's. Some accounts of the Irish Civil war c.1922-3 indicate that the Pro-treaty and Anti-treaty IRA committed the most brutal atrocities upon each other. There was little room for religion. Indeed, for years afterwards, and to the present day, the only place that one can be assured of 'forgetful politics' is on the field of play within the GAA where former enemies first started to speak to each other again after the civil war.
 
Dropped a long time ago, they even hosted a few rugby games at Croke Park a few years ago when Landsdowne Road was being renovated.

This decision did not go down well with some die-hards, including this mong who protested outside (see how long it takes you to spot the dripping irony).

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Glasgow knows very well how to export its bigotry.................usually at every opportunity. The 'huns' are no better.
 
Couple of videos on YouTube which were made in 1965 and 1969 before the Troubles really kicked off. The one in 1969 between the two sets of teenagers - Protestant and Catholic is really interesting. I wonde what happened to them as they would have come of age at the height of the troubles in the early seventies. I could only pick up every other word they were saying and I used to speak pretty fluent Boggie.


 
Dropped a long time ago, they even hosted a few rugby games at Croke Park a few years ago when Landsdowne Road was being renovated.

This decision did not go down well with some die-hards, including this mong who protested outside (see how long it takes you to spot the dripping irony).

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They hosted the Rugby Matches after they had had American Football Matches and Monster Truck Shows with no problems. They have hosted the Shinty-Hurling International several times since 1922 though they started using it in 1897, and used other GAA grounds before that. I am pretty certain they meant English Games.
 

Fat POM

Old-Salt
They hosted the Rugby Matches after they had had American Football Matches and Monster Truck Shows with no problems. They have hosted the Shinty-Hurling International several times since 1922 though they started using it in 1897, and used other GAA grounds before that. I am pretty certain they meant English Games.
One phrase, used when the rugby was played there, by one of the antis was "Garrison Games."

Must have been catchy because I remembered it. The games were played anyway without any issues I seem to recall.
 
They hosted the Rugby Matches after they had had American Football Matches and Monster Truck Shows with no problems. They have hosted the Shinty-Hurling International several times since 1922 though they started using it in 1897, and used other GAA grounds before that. I am pretty certain they meant English Games.
I don't think they ever denied that it meant exactly that.
 
I’ve been up that, 1980/81. Great views.
I was up there in 2019, at sundown. I agree, the views are excellent. One of the guys I was with told me about the Turm app. Each of the windows on the viewing platform is numbered. In the app you can basically move around from window to window and it highlights all that you can see, as well as providing significant background info. Apparently, the app was built by high-school students as a history project with some cultural prize money that Berlin had won for something and the mayor decided to re-invest this way. The text and audio guides, in German, French and English are also compiled by high-school students.

Somehow, I just cannot imagine the London mayor running a project for landmarks on the same basis.
 

Carbon 6

War Hero
I was up there in 2019, at sundown. I agree, the views are excellent. One of the guys I was with told me about the Turm app. Each of the windows on the viewing platform is numbered. In the app you can basically move around from window to window and it highlights all that you can see, as well as providing significant background info. Apparently, the app was built by high-school students as a history project with some cultural prize money that Berlin had won for something and the mayor decided to re-invest this way. The text and audio guides, in German, French and English are also compiled by high-school students.

Somehow, I just cannot imagine the London mayor running a project for landmarks on the same basis.

Khan might be persuaded if he realises that there’s four mosques in London for every degree of rotation.
 
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Choux Bun

Swinger
No mate I disagree.
I had a lot of time for our chogie waller.
Knock on the front any time and 30 seconds later he was asking what you wanted.
I believe 2 were killed doing their job.
I respect them.
Our Choggies in GCH were always open during our 1974 tour. Same guys were there when we went back in 1976. Whatever you ordered came the question.."mit honion mukajeebee"? Don't ever remember them offering haircuts though.
 
Dropped a long time ago, they even hosted a few rugby games at Croke Park a few years ago when Landsdowne Road was being renovated.

This decision did not go down well with some die-hards, including this mong who protested outside (see how long it takes you to spot the dripping irony).

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I was at that match.
This photograph got a fair amount of circulation at the time.
It’s says so much – far more than the holder of the sign intended!
 
Well who wants a haircut with their burger anyway! Or a haircut with honions, for that matter . . .
My honion rolled out the front door last year. Right into the path of a bloody great juggernaut.
I rushed her to the honion hospital and she was in theatre for hours
The honion surgeon came out and he looked a bit grim, so I prepared myself for the worst.
I asked, is she going to make it.
He said, "She will pull through ok..........................................but
for the rest of her life...................................................................
She's gonna be a vegetable!
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Themanwho

LE
Book Reviewer
Pig ambulance in XMG from about ‘82 I think.
A Humber Pig was in XMG at the end of 88, deffo not an ambulance as it was full of detector kit, and we had to do an all hands bomb burst op every month or so to allow it to trundle slowly around the town stopping at various points while the Sigs / Int det did their thing inside it.
 
Ok, time for something funny for a change perhaps? Anyone remember the static water tank in the Roulement Wkps at Sydenham, by what was then Shorts airfield. Slight digress, I used to watch the the new Skyvans flying out to wherever, not realising I'd be a passenger in them a few years later. Anyway, back to the SWA. I ended up in it a few times for various reasons... see pics, circa mid '78. Also I think when the chaplain came over to visit, he ended up in the SWA himself. But, someone decided to dry out his Wool suit in a hot dryer, came out probably the size for his son! Think we had to cough up the money for a new one. Had a look on Google at Belfast City airport now, and you can just make out the remains of some of the old wksp buildings.
 

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Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
A Humber Pig was in XMG at the end of 88, deffo not an ambulance as it was full of detector kit, and we had to do an all hands bomb burst op every month or so to allow it to trundle slowly around the town stopping at various points while the Sigs / Int det did their thing inside it.
You're right - an EOD Pig but I think there was also an ambulance - I seem to remember having to provide a LCpl plus two or three plus a VM in '88.
 

Bubbles_Barker

LE
Book Reviewer
Ok, time for something funny for a change perhaps? Anyone remember the static water tank in the Roulement Wkps at Sydenham, by what was then Shorts airfield. Slight digress, I used to watch the the new Skyvans flying out to wherever, not realising I'd be a passenger in them a few years later. Anyway, back to the SWA. I ended up in it a few times for various reasons... see pics, circa mid '78. Also I think when the chaplain came over to visit, he ended up in the SWA himself. But, someone decided to dry out his Wool suit in a hot dryer, came out probably the size for his son! Think we had to cough up the money for a new one. Had a look on Google at Belfast City airport now, and you can just make out the remains of some of the old wksp buildings.
D'you mean what was Moscow Camp? That's what you can see on Google I think.
 

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