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Op Banner photos - some memories for the old and bold

for all his ranting and raving, he actually believed what he was saying, I mean how could you not think the man believed in what he was saying?
He did, and so did a great majority of the populace at the time. Try not to hear what he said through 2020 headphones; it was all a little different then.
 
He did, and so did a great majority of the populace at the time. Try not to hear what he said through 2020 headphones; it was all a little different then.

Macker could have 'gripped' it in Stroke City and not have allowed the emergence of INLA. He was already dominant in that sphere. Accepting his Sunday visits to Long Tower chapel, and the dichotomy of Church / Catholicism against lightweight socialism in the emergent INLA as was experienced.
As is remarked, the headphones of some in those times.
 
Macker could have 'gripped' it in Stroke City and not have allowed the emergence of INLA. He was already dominant in that sphere. Accepting his Sunday visits to Long Tower chapel, and the dichotomy of Church / Catholicism against lightweight socialism in the emergent INLA as was experienced.
As is remarked, the headphones of some in those times.
But, of course, the attraction of a rebellious (if not really recognisable as actual Marxist) movement against Authority was immense. With the hindsight of fifty years, nobody should have been surprised. I was; I'd been listening to the ould IRA songs and thinking - with no political insight whatsoever - how marvellous they had been, and singing 'Wearing of the Green' or 'Foggy Dew' in the Cumberland folk clubs, too, along with every other ignorant folkie yelling 'Blaydon Races'. A few years later it all became serious to the youthful army recruit. It's a lesson to every new recruit to any new Cause; rationality and emotion are easily manipulated. Be sure of the facts.
 

ste14w

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Did your lot not lose someone on a booby trapped barrier gate on that tour..? I remember clearing that one up and watching the barrier man a few days later dressed up like a michelin man with double flack jackets and cricket pads...?
That may have been Leon Bush, 1WFR. Oct 82?
 

HE117

LE
That may have been Leon Bush, 1WFR. Oct 82?
I think you are right... I had it in my head he was a Greenjacket, but thinking back he must have been a WFR as it was central Belfast..
 

ugly

LE
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I think you are right... I had it in my head he was a Greenjacket, but thinking back he must have been a WFR as it was central Belfast..
I thought the barrier bomb was in the springmartins close to new Barnsley
 


Stumbled across this one; catapulting tear gas apparently. Anyone ever see it, hear about it, or even do it?
 

9.414

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Stumbled across this one; catapulting tear gas apparently. Anyone ever see it, hear about it, or even do it?
it has appeared a couple of times up thread. I think you will find it was a posed shot in time for the 1 April edition of Visor magazine or somesuch ;)
 
Found this today, apparently 2RRF in Tin City 1978, @Stonker, is that you?

tin city joe elliott.jpg
 
Doesn't look like he's having a good day at the office.

The boy who has him by the scruff seems to be enjoying himself, though.

The attackers are all squaddies surely? Isn't this some sort of Civil disorder course?

Edit: The Met old bill have quite a fun Public Order course in Gravesend which I enjoyed a few years ago
 
The attackers are all squaddies surely? Isn't this some sort of Civil disorder course?
It’s Op BANNER PDT in Tin City so yes you could call it that. CIVPOP was generally drawn from the next unit to go after yours so no love lost and pretty much anything went.
 
The attackers are all squaddies surely? Isn't this some sort of Civil disorder course?

Edit: The Met old bill have quite a fun Public Order course in Gravesend which I enjoyed a few years ago

The obligatory Tin City end-of-course Riot (whether UK or BFG based) was always a thing of beauty: scores (real or imagined) were settled, the 'rioters' were always suitably refreshed and at least one prospective GBH was committed :)
 
It’s Op BANNER PDT in Tin City so yes you could call it that. CIVPOP was generally drawn from the next unit to go after yours so no love lost and pretty much anything went.

Ah yes of course.

Th Gravesend course got a bit fruity too. Molotovs and wooden bricks are chucked about. It was very much Us verses the Old Bill.
 
The obligatory Tin City end-of-course Riot (whether UK or BFG based) was always a thing of beauty: scores (real or imagined) were settled, the 'rioters' were always suitably refreshed and at least one prospective GBH was committed :)

The young blade in the trilby has a can of Strongbow (?) in each paw. To drink or chuck at the Security Force bloke's head is a difficult choice
 

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