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Interesting article. I don't know how reliable a source it is but as long as "Jarry" comes out smelling of shit, it's OK.

Didn't the Irish Government release that information a while back?
They inferred that Gerry dropped the info off to clear the decks of some people who were a bit anti Gerry and Marty.
 
Didn't the Irish Government release that information a while back?
They inferred that Gerry dropped the info off to clear the decks of some people who were a bit anti Gerry and Marty.
Jarry doing politics. There's only one thing worse than a terrorist and that's a terrorist who thinks he's a politician.
 
A bit like a future Chief Constable of Humberside Police - Lt Tim Hollis, 3 Para and his patrol of 3 landrovers invading the Irish Republic on the 7th May 1976 then.
An excellent bloke for what it's worth.
 
We departed Londonderry at the end of January 1981. Spent Christmas - New Year 1980 at Rosemount what fun
Ajax 2RTR were at Fort George from July supposedly till November ‘77, three months in “by the way, you can now do six months”. Left early January 78.
Over the Foyle, on a 18 month tour were the Duke of Boots.
 

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Here it is from 2017

Gerry Adams was rumoured to have set up a notorious IRA gang for ambush by the SAS as they tried to blow up a police station in May 1987, previously secret files have revealed.

Eight members of the Provisionals’ East Tyrone Brigade were shot dead after they loaded a 200lb bomb onto a stolen digger and smashed through the gates of the RUC barracks in Loughgall.

British special forces were lying in wait and killed them all, along with innocent victim Anthony Hughes

The rumour about Mr Adams was passed on to Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs by respected cleric Fr Denis Faul about three months after the Loughgall operation.

The priest, who had taught Padraig McKearney, one of the IRA men, at St Patrick’s Academy in Dungannon, said the theory doing the rounds was that “the IRA team were set up by Gerry Adams himself”. Fr Faul said he was “intrigued” by the theory.

In response to the reported remarks, a Sinn Fein spokesman said: “These claims are utter nonsense.”

Fr Faul, who was a chaplain at Long Kesh, said the rumour was that two of the gang — McKearney and Jim Lynagh, a councillor in Monaghan, — “had threatened to execute Adams shortly before the Loughgall event”.

It was being claimed that the pair “disliked Adams’ political policy” and that they were leaning towards Republican Sinn Fein.

 
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I'm pretty sure that the great majority of City weapon finds during my tour there (76-78 ) were in that general vicinity. It might have been because the RUC had a no-go line, about 100m to the left, which they couldn't cross. AR-180s and the like predominated at the time. I recall a particularly fine Thompson 28 replica*, and a very-well cared-for Gewehr 98, in a carefully-carpented and camouflaged hide - a large plank of wood which had been hollowed and the trap hinged, in the space where the flyover meets the ground. A sniper had used the rifle a couple of times, and there was a very angry search which found it.

* No Idea who had made the Thompson replica; probably the result of the usual US fascination with such things.
Struggling to identify where that is…
 
Here it is from 2017

Gerry Adams was rumoured to have set up a notorious IRA gang for ambush by the SAS as they tried to blow up a police station in May 1987, previously secret files have revealed.

Eight members of the Provisionals’ East Tyrone Brigade were shot dead after they loaded a 200lb bomb onto a stolen digger and smashed through the gates of the RUC barracks in Loughgall.

British special forces were lying in wait and killed them all, along with innocent victim Anthony Hughes

The rumour about Mr Adams was passed on to Ireland’s Department of Foreign Affairs by respected cleric Fr Denis Faul about three months after the Loughgall operation.

The priest, who had taught Padraig McKearney, one of the IRA men, at St Patrick’s Academy in Dungannon, said the theory doing the rounds was that “the IRA team were set up by Gerry Adams himself”. Fr Faul said he was “intrigued” by the theory.

In response to the reported remarks, a Sinn Fein spokesman said: “These claims are utter nonsense.”

Fr Faul, who was a chaplain at Long Kesh, said the rumour was that two of the gang — McKearney and Jim Lynagh, a councillor in Monaghan, — “had threatened to execute Adams shortly before the Loughgall event”.

It was being claimed that the pair “disliked Adams’ political policy” and that they were leaning towards Republican Sinn Fein.

That story has been knocking around for a long time
 
That story has been knocking around for a long time
...and it's bullshit. Totally without any foundation whatsoever... It could only be possible if there were collusion at Ministerial/Governmental level, and there were never any meetings between British Governmental representatives and the Provisional IRA, where compromise could be discussed. None. None whatsoever. Tiocfaidh Ar La.
 
...and it's bullshit. Totally without any foundation whatsoever... It could only be possible if there were collusion at Ministerial/Governmental level, and there were never any meetings between British Governmental representatives and the Provisional IRA, where compromise could be discussed. None. None whatsoever. Tiocfaidh Ar La.
Lucky gerry wasn't in the PIRA then, no siree.
 
Lucky gerry wasn't in the PIRA then, no siree.
Honesty, ethical respectability, moral integrity; the marks of a Statesman. Presidents, Queens, Prime Ministers and Princes have shaken his hand in the knowledge that these were his virtues. Rather makes you think, doesn't it?
 
I have been there exactly once because I got lost.
I used to find myself there far more often than I would like to have been. Nice to have a decent cordon around you while you worked, though. Worse was a little further up the hill into the Bog, where the route out could be treacherous, and possibly foreseen by devious types on the other side. WIS had an answer to that, which was an appalling and terrifying speed of exit (terrified RMP drivers were good at that).
 
Honesty, ethical respectability, moral integrity; the marks of a Statesman. Presidents, Queens, Prime Ministers and Princes have shaken his hand in the knowledge that these were his virtues. Rather makes you think, doesn't it?
In Lebanon, the people are turning on former warlords who got into power after a peace deal to end a Civil War.
I wonder if a couple of people are starting to get nervous.
 
...and it's bullshit. Totally without any foundation whatsoever... It could only be possible if there were collusion at Ministerial/Governmental level, and there were never any meetings between British Governmental representatives and the Provisional IRA, where compromise could be discussed. None. None whatsoever. Tiocfaidh Ar La.
Adams only contact with the wider political elite was facilitated by the Clonard based Father Alex Reid who acted as a facilitator to bring Adams into contact with Charles Haughey using Martin Mansergh as a go-between. The idea was to develop a pan-nationalist approach to the issue of Ireland and the 'contact' was continued by Albert Reynolds when he succeeded Haughey as Fianna Fail leader. Haughey had declined to speak directly to Adams as it may have caused him difficulty in the Dail, but his suggested compromise was to bring John Hume into the equation - albeit that Hume would not be told about the prior Adams-Read involvement in case he leaked the information.

Although Hume went on to reap the accolades regarding the evolution of the Peace Process, Adams had a much longer and prior involvement. Logic would dictate that with everything else going on, Gerry Adams wouldn't have had much time to engage in 'touting' to the British.....or anyone else.
 
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Adams only contact with the wider political elite was facilitated by the Clonard based Father Alex Reid who acted as a facilitator to bring Adams into contact with Charles Haughey using Martin Mansergh as a go-between. The idea was to develop a pan-nationalist approach to the issue of Ireland and the 'contact' was continued by Albert Reynolds when he succeeded Haughey as Fianna Fail leader. Haughey had declined to speak directly to Adams as it may have caused him difficulty in the Dail, but his suggested compromise was to bring John Hume into the equation - albeit that Hume would not be told about the prior Adams-Read involvement in case he leaked the information.

Although Hume went on to reap the accolades regarding the evolution of the Peace Process, Adams had a much longer and prior involvement. Logic would dictate that with everything else going on, Gerry Adams wouldn't have had much time to engage in 'touting' to the British.....or anyone else.
"Gerry Adams wouldn't have much time to tout..."

How much time does anyone need to sell out his brothers and collect his silver?
 

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