One for the pet ops

#1
Im on a bulk fuel course next week in grantham, what vehicle do they use to train you on this? Is it generally just the CST's or any other vehicle aswell.
 
#2
Grantham, well that will be a good course then!
You should do it on UST and CST. Pointless doing UBRE unless your Unit has UBRE until last of roll-out for UST. Depends what vehicles your Unit has i suppose. If your doing the course for a up-coming tour, then CST and UST all the way! Same goes for Canada as thats all they use now.
 
#3
I thought this course was done at The Skool???? or do we not have the Instructors ????
 
#4
CH512O said:
Grantham, well that will be a good course then!
You should do it on UST and CST. Pointless doing UBRE unless your Unit has UBRE until last of roll-out for UST. Depends what vehicles your Unit has i suppose. If your doing the course for a up-coming tour, then CST and UST all the way! Same goes for Canada as thats all they use now.
Being a trog im pretty useless with the fuel side of things, we have CST's at the unit. If the UST is what im thinking it is. (The new MAN truck then we dont have any of them). It is for a up coming Falklands tour.
 
#6
mattrlc said:
CH512O said:
Grantham, well that will be a good course then!
You should do it on UST and CST. Pointless doing UBRE unless your Unit has UBRE until last of roll-out for UST. Depends what vehicles your Unit has i suppose. If your doing the course for a up-coming tour, then CST and UST all the way! Same goes for Canada as thats all they use now.
Being a trog im pretty useless with the fuel side of things, we have CST's at the unit. If the UST is what im thinking it is. (The new MAN truck then we dont have any of them). It is for a up coming Falklands tour.
As 338ster said it should be GST you should be doing. But its easier to do UST/CST course, then its a straight couple of days conversion to GST. I will surprised you will be properly qualified as trying to find a serviceable GST in UK is like rocking horse poo! Saying that, the 2 in the Falklands were not exactly decent either! Dont forget, its not just the operating the "fuel bit", you have to be Famm'd on the truck bit. You could use my 2, but then they have been off the road for 12 months!
 
#8
CH512O said:
mattrlc said:
CH512O said:
Grantham, well that will be a good course then!
You should do it on UST and CST. Pointless doing UBRE unless your Unit has UBRE until last of roll-out for UST. Depends what vehicles your Unit has i suppose. If your doing the course for a up-coming tour, then CST and UST all the way! Same goes for Canada as thats all they use now.
Being a trog im pretty useless with the fuel side of things, we have CST's at the unit. If the UST is what im thinking it is. (The new MAN truck then we dont have any of them). It is for a up coming Falklands tour.
As 338ster said it should be GST you should be doing. But its easier to do UST/CST course, then its a straight couple of days conversion to GST. I will surprised you will be properly qualified as trying to find a serviceable GST in UK is like rocking horse poo! Saying that, the 2 in the Falklands were not exactly decent either! Dont forget, its not just the operating the "fuel bit", you have to be Famm'd on the truck bit. You could use my 2, but then they have been off the road for 12 months!
If anything, the CST would make more sense as we have them at the regiment. Nothings ever that straight forward though.
 
#9
It would and like i said, for conversion its easier and when you come back you can drive CST. If you just do GST, its only useful for the Falklands and nothing else really.
GST will be replaced in a few years time, another one of CH's jobs at moment, so ill keep you posted as to what it is.
 
#10
Excellent, have you any idea when they are going to bring the UST's in across the board, most of the guys at the unit have never seen an SV let alone drive one.
 
#11
mattrlc said:
Excellent, have you any idea when they are going to bring the UST's in across the board, most of the guys at the unit have never seen an SV let alone drive one.
The reason why you havnt seen them is because your Unit is not deploying to HERRICK in near future. Priority is Units going to BATUS and HERRICK. As you lot, except you, are sunning yourselves in Cyprus soon im afraid you will have a wait.
But if you want to know about SV or UST, then ask away.
 
#12
Ive had a chance to put an SV through its paces, although It was nice to drive, really comfortable etc. I was left with the "If only it was a manual" train of thought.
 
#14
BPS666 said:
mattrlc said:
Ive had a chance to put an SV through its paces, although It was nice to drive, really comfortable etc. I was left with the "If only it was a manual" train of thought.
Why?
It just seemed a bit unresponsive at times, I know there is the option to put it into manual but to be honest, I prefer the DAF
 
#15
Are you on the TA cse? if so dont forget your dancing shoes I burnt about £500 in two weeks :twisted: I take it you already have your HAZMAT? if so expect the second week to be a bit dull and end up doing the odd job for the MT wing or stood down..Good fun though and no getting fcuked around
 
#16
mattrlc said:
BPS666 said:
mattrlc said:
Ive had a chance to put an SV through its paces, although It was nice to drive, really comfortable etc. I was left with the "If only it was a manual" train of thought.
Why?
It just seemed a bit unresponsive at times, I know there is the option to put it into manual but to be honest, I prefer the DAF
Without listing a load of boring facts, ill quickly summise that a DAF is worlds away from a SV. If you think that a DAF is better than a SV then you were not taught correctly or the facts were not given. Bear in mind, when on Ops and driving SV (DAF is not used outside the wire in HERRICK) you may have one ear on the radio, monitoring ECM stuff, watching out for road conditions etc, so having a Auto might make life easier. I have said this before, if you had a choice of going on Ex/Ops with a SV or DAF, i bet you choose SV.
 
#17
CH512O said:
mattrlc said:
BPS666 said:
mattrlc said:
Ive had a chance to put an SV through its paces, although It was nice to drive, really comfortable etc. I was left with the "If only it was a manual" train of thought.
Why?
It just seemed a bit unresponsive at times, I know there is the option to put it into manual but to be honest, I prefer the DAF
Without listing a load of boring facts, ill quickly summise that a DAF is worlds away from a SV. If you think that a DAF is better than a SV then you were not taught correctly or the facts were not given. Bear in mind, when on Ops and driving SV (DAF is not used outside the wire in HERRICK) you may have one ear on the radio, monitoring ECM stuff, watching out for road conditions etc, so having a Auto might make life easier. I have said this before, if you had a choice of going on Ex/Ops with a SV or DAF, i bet you choose SV.
Of course, I whole heartedly agree with you, I kind of made my judgement after taking one cross country. There is no denying it is an impressive piece of kit and it will do what it is designed to do with ease, wouldnt fancy changing a wheel though on my own.
 
#18
mattrlc said:
CH512O said:
mattrlc said:
BPS666 said:
mattrlc said:
Ive had a chance to put an SV through its paces, although It was nice to drive, really comfortable etc. I was left with the "If only it was a manual" train of thought.
Why?
It just seemed a bit unresponsive at times, I know there is the option to put it into manual but to be honest, I prefer the DAF
Without listing a load of boring facts, ill quickly summise that a DAF is worlds away from a SV. If you think that a DAF is better than a SV then you were not taught correctly or the facts were not given. Bear in mind, when on Ops and driving SV (DAF is not used outside the wire in HERRICK) you may have one ear on the radio, monitoring ECM stuff, watching out for road conditions etc, so having a Auto might make life easier. I have said this before, if you had a choice of going on Ex/Ops with a SV or DAF, i bet you choose SV.
Of course, I whole heartedly agree with you, I kind of made my judgement after taking one cross country. There is no denying it is an impressive piece of kit and it will do what it is designed to do with ease, wouldnt fancy changing a wheel though on my own.
Wheel changing is a lot easier than current vehicles in service, the guides in the CES help massively. With TES fit you won't have to worry about wheel changing outside the wire so its no biggie!!
 
#19
Can we change the title of this thread to One for the Trogs!!!!!

Only CH could get interested in changing tyres!!!!
 
#20
mattrlc said:
Of course, I whole heartedly agree with you, I kind of made my judgement after taking one cross country. There is no denying it is an impressive piece of kit and it will do what it is designed to do with ease, wouldnt fancy changing a wheel though on my own.
On your SV course you will be taught to change it on your own and its easy. Like Strima says as long as you use the tools in the CES its peace of pish.
Trouble is some training i have seen, Instructors dont even bother to take the wheel down and change one. Also i didnt see too many cabs being tipped either in the ones my Unit were running. I suppose its the standard/knowledge of Instruction that makes the difference.
 

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