Olympic Torch Snuffed Out In Paris

#1
On skynews and website?

Fantastic, and no white flags involved.

Do they have a back up flame handy? Or will the french government improvise and wrap a white flag around a stick and try to continue
 

mysteron

LE
Book Reviewer
#2
Story here:

"Olympic Torch Parade Protests In Paris
Updated:11:50, Monday April 07, 2008

Hundreds of anti-China protesters are demonstrating as the Olympic torch relay makes its way through the streets of Paris surrounded by a huge security operation.

A protester in ParisThousands of police have been sent out to try to make sure there is no repeat of chaotic scenes seen when the Olympic flame was carried through London.

Dozens were arrested when thousands of human rights protesters ambushed yesterday's event, which saw sport stars and celebrities help carry the torch 31 miles from Wembley Stadium to Greenwich.

And media rights group Reporters Without Borders (RSF), which disrupted the lighting of the flame in Athens, has promised "symbolic, spectacular" actions in the French capital.

The first reported incident came when pro-Tibetan activists shouted abuse at a man carrying a Chinese flag and tried to snatch it from him.


Plain-clothes police officers quickly intervened to separate them.

Sky News Europe correspondent Greg Milam said the French police were determined to send a strong message early on.

"They, like the rest of the world, have seen the pictures of what happened in London and they're not going to let it happen here," he said.

He said the torch would be encircled by security services as it made its way through the French capital to try to stop demonstrators getting near it.

The London protests saw one demonstrator try to snatch the torch from former Blue Peter presenter Konnie Huq.

Another attempted to put out the flame with a fire extinguisher but was wrestled to the ground by police.


Police fear major disruptionBy the time that double Olympic champion Dame Kelly Holmes lit a cauldron at the 02 Arena at the end of the day, 37 arrests had been made, Scotland Yard said.

The torch relay is officially meant to signify harmony and peace - but demonstrators are determined to use it to bring attention to China's human rights abuses.

Chinese state television focused on the larger crowds of well-wishers who lined the route and British sports celebrities holding the torch, rather than the protests.

Sun Weide, a spokesman for the Beijing Olympic organising committee, said: "A few Tibetan separatists attempted to sabotage the torch relay in London, and we strongly denounce their disgusting behaviour.


Protests in London"The act of defiance from this small group of people is not popular.

"It will definitely be criticised by people who love peace and adore the Olympic spirit. Their attempt is doomed to failure."

International Olympic Committee chief Jacques Rogge expressed concern at the demonstrations, but said there was no momentum for a boycott of the Beijing Games.

Tibet's capital, Lhasa, was hit last month by Buddhist monks' protests against Chinese rule that gave way to deadly rioting on March 14, and since then security forces have been sent in to reimpose control there and in neighbouring areas of China with large ethnic Tibetan populations.

China says 19 people died in the Lhasa riot, but representatives of the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, say a total of 140 people died in the unrest in Tibet and surrounding areas."
 
#3
link? Nothing on BBC
 
#5
It's on the BBC ticker now but no more details.
 
#6
They usually have a back up flame in the wings (Well, lit from the same source) at a seperate location.

They'll relight the main torch and either go around paris or do it again at a undisclosed time
 
#7
The Olympic torch has been extinguished by officials in Paris amid protests by anti-China demonstrators.

Reports from the French capital say the flame was snuffed out and the torch put on a bus.
:? surrender monkeys have excelled themselves this time
 
#8
Haven´t got a clue how accurate the details are, but according to the boxhead press, the torch was moved onto a bus for safety. Nothing mentioned that the torch was extinguished by officials.

If however it is true, the French are hardly going to admit it, even if someone did get it on camera. 8O
 
#9
Ian1983 said:
They usually have a back up flame in the wings (Well, lit from the same source) at a seperate location.

They'll relight the main torch and either go around paris or do it again at a undisclosed time
Ian's right, they have a back-up of course. kind of stole the protesters thunder a bit.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#10
You have to admire French logic - protesters are trying to snuff out the flame to protest against China so we'll snuff it out instead. That'll learn em to protest.
 
#12
I wonder how many protesters were wearing clothes made in Chinese Sweatshops...
The Sportsmen and Women involved in the games have no influence over politicians, they are involved in Sport, which can spread goodwill amongst people of other cultures.
If the protesters had any brains they would be outside No 10 all day every day. Instead they pick on what must be the only few honerable people this world has left.
and to see the French take this action.. well words fail me, almost..
the Chese eating surrender monkeys
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#13
Its not about the sport. Its about using a high profile event that the Chinese government cares about to embarrass them over their activiies in Tibet, Darfur and on human rights in China.
 
#14
BobJamesCo said:
I wonder how many protesters were wearing clothes made in Chinese Sweatshops...
The Sportsmen and Women involved in the games have no influence over politicians, they are involved in Sport, which can spread goodwill amongst people of other cultures.
If the protesters had any brains they would be outside No 10 all day every day. Instead they pick on what must be the only few honerable people this world has left.
and to see the French take this action.. well words fail me, almost..
the Chese eating surrender monkeys
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
 
#15
Ffyll said:
BobJamesCo said:
I wonder how many protesters were wearing clothes made in Chinese Sweatshops...
The Sportsmen and Women involved in the games have no influence over politicians, they are involved in Sport, which can spread goodwill amongst people of other cultures.
If the protesters had any brains they would be outside No 10 all day every day. Instead they pick on what must be the only few honerable people this world has left.
and to see the French take this action.. well words fail me, almost..
the Chese eating surrender monkeys
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
The protests are anit-China, it isn't just about Tibet although that is a big factor. The main reason a lot of politicos are using Tibet is to try and hide the other human rights issues such as Darfur, slave labour, sweatshops, lack of democracy, animal abuse, compulsory purchase of peoples home etc etc. Tibet has just had the most press recently, heaven forbid the general public find out any more about China; even more may boycott it, losing our beloved media a lot of money. I'd like to add that maybe our own gov't would maybe take some action but thinking that the self serving bunch of wasters would do anything the public actually want, is a pipedream.

I can't believe anybody with any common sense did not forsee this happening when they gave the Olympics to China
 
#16
Ffyll said:
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
On the other hand you have to be pretty slow to believe any of this is going to actually change the way China does things. All this will achieve is further repression to ensure nothing gets out about what they are doing there.
 
#17
The comments at the bottom on the sky news site never cease to amaze me.


To Rob from manchester - Please get your people selves out of N. Ireland and Iraq first, then come back to judge China. Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment. (John 7:24) For the word of God is living and active,sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. (Heb 4:12)

Some people need to get a fcuking life :D
 
#18
Ord_Sgt said:
Ffyll said:
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
On the other hand you have to be pretty slow to believe any of this is going to actually change the way China does things. All this will achieve is further repression to ensure nothing gets out about what they are doing there.
I'm not slow to believe that free press, dissappation of information and highlighting such problems will make a difference - however little. You start a fire with a spark, after all. And I'm sure the same kind of thing was said about the anti-apartheid protests, to Martin Luther King, to Mother Terrasa etc.
 
#19
Ord_Sgt said:
Ffyll said:
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
On the other hand you have to be pretty slow to believe any of this is going to actually change the way China does things. All this will achieve is further repression to ensure nothing gets out about what they are doing there.
So people shouldn't bother to protest about something they believe in?

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
 
#20
Ord_Sgt said:
Ffyll said:
On the other hand, these protests have been made when the world's publicity machines are in full action mode and have made their point very well. there are no few people in the world who watch the news who can't claim to know about the plight of the Tibetians. This isn't a usual left wing protest - this is about communist storm troopers opening fire on Tibetian civilians and the world knowing about it.

What has Chinese sweatshops got to do with anything? The protests are not anti-China, but anti storm trooper.

I want to ask people: what form of protest should the Tibetians be engaged in? Surely the idea of demonstrations are to gain publicity. No one can deny they've achieved that very well.
On the other hand you have to be pretty slow to believe any of this is going to actually change the way China does things. All this will achieve is further repression to ensure nothing gets out about what they are doing there.
At least it's a start. One thing that would make the Chinese sit up and take notice is if we stopped buying their goods, but that's unlikely while the little bastards keep making such good quality items at such low, low prices.
 

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