Old P Coy tabbing routes

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Zarathustra

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#1
A bit of a random question for the old and bold of the maroon beret fraternity.

As I'm working over Christmas and most likely New Year I want to get some quality training in while everyone else is getting their extra leave.

To that end I want to get out and get the miles in and am after either maps of the old P Coy routes on Aldershot training area, or a description of the routes so I can mark them out on Google Earth.

I will see if our PTIs have a set of pre-planned routes but on the off chance they just plan them the day before a tab I'd like to have a few of my own. I could go out and just make a route up as I go but I find tabbing (on my own) easier if I have a route with a set distance so I can aim on reaching certain landmarks in a set time rather than constantly checking my Garmin to see how far I've done, and I'm too lazy to work my own out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated and feel free to make as many hat jokes as you like.
 
#2
CB, as I understand it, a lot of the old routes now have houses on them.... :(
 
#6
I sit corrected then :)
 
#7
You can still do the route as there is the 'airborne 10' every winter where individuals can run the route for charity....Long Valley, Sandy, Hungry Hill etc, etc.

Did it in aformer life but the technical details have passed me by. You may try a purely airborne website.

It still can be done but I guess it is less chewed up now!
 
#8
Rather than being mapped I think the routes just evolved and were inherited by succesive PTIs.
 
#9
A bit of a random question for the old and bold of the maroon beret fraternity.

As I'm working over Christmas and most likely New Year I want to get some quality training in while everyone else is getting their extra leave.

To that end I want to get out and get the miles in and am after either maps of the old P Coy routes on Aldershot training area, or a description of the routes so I can mark them out on Google Earth.

I will see if our PTIs have a set of pre-planned routes but on the off chance they just plan them the day before a tab I'd like to have a few of my own. I could go out and just make a route up as I go but I find tabbing (on my own) easier if I have a route with a set distance so I can aim on reaching certain landmarks in a set time rather than constantly checking my Garmin to see how far I've done, and I'm too lazy to work my own out.

Any help would be greatly appreciated and feel free to make as many hat jokes as you like.


The routes did vary from OC to OC.

Start at Browning Bks.... head for Malta Bks, under the road bridge.

Straight down the Rd to Eelmoor Bridge, Cross the Fleet rd & head for Miles Hill, straight ahead Long Valley with a couple of Airborne Circles half way down on the right. Up & down Phelan's Fancy.

Then head south on Long Valley to Jubilee Firs, west to Bourley lakes & Up the rear of Beacon Hill by the track running alongside the Farnham/Fleet rd.

Head East at the top past the Gravelly Lake & onto Flagstaff (Caesars Camp) two benches there!

Head South to the Horse Pond then south east to Hungry Hill, up down up dow up down & onto Long Bottom.

Up the Concrete Rd & cross the Bourley Rd going North, Through the Bats Hogsty & along to the rear of Rushmoor Arena & back to Browning.

Piece of Piss!
 
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Zarathustra

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The routes did vary from OC to OC.

Start at Browning Bks.... head for Malta Bks, under the road bridge.

Straight down the Rd to Eelmoor Bridge, Cross the Fleet rd & head for Miles Hill, straight ahead Long Valley with a couple of Airborne Circles half way down on the right. Up & down Phelan's Fancy.

Then head south on Long Valley to Jubilee Firs, west to Bourley lakes & Up the rear of Beacon Hill by the track running alongside the Farnham/Fleet rd.

Head East at the top past the Gravelly Lake & onto Flagstaff (Caesars Camp) two benches there!

Head South to the Horse Pond then south east to Hungry Hill, up down up dow up down & onto Long Bottom.

Up the Concrete Rd & cross the Bourley Rd going North, Through the Bats Hogsty & along to the rear of Rushmoor Arena & back to Browning.

Piece of Piss!
Cheers
 
#11
Okay I've done routes round Aldershot many a time.

What I'd like if any one can help is the original 10 miler route round Hardwick Hall.

Did it once may years ago and would like to try it again.
 
#13
Should you want a Guide. I can get a retired P Coy Sergeant Major to take you around.

1. You can go for a slow tab with one of them, & do it in 1.40, or

2. Run the whole course with a 69 year old one, who will not wait for you, if you can't keep up with him!

Option one would probably be better for you! Easier.
 
#15
For those interested in the routes I know the 'Paras 10' is being run in the shot next year so they will certainly have some answers for you.

Although it will take in the general area, it's not the same thing.

The Paras 10 is really just a fun run for most competitors.

There are no competitors on P Coy, they're all potential candidates!
 
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Should you want a Guide. I can get a retired P Coy Sergeant Major to take you around.

1. You can go for a slow tab with one of them, & do it in 1.40, or

2. Run the whole course with a 69 year old one, who will not wait for you, if you can't keep up with him!

Option one would probably be better for you! Easier.
Will you hold my hand and give me a foot massage afterwards?
 
#18
When it was first moved up to Catterick back in circa 93, I believe a few people wanted to compare the 'new route' with the Aldershot route. A few volunteers later, they came to the conclusion that they were both as tough as each other, under test conditions, both had fair share of hills etc etc. Of course the P coy staff at the time would have probably recce'd the area at the time just to prove this theory.
Been a long time since I been on the shot area, but by Caesars camp was there a housing estate on the other side of the wall?..and was it top of flagstaff where you could get a view of Farnbourough airport?..
 
#19
When it was first moved up to Catterick back in circa 93, I believe a few people wanted to compare the 'new route' with the Aldershot route. A few volunteers later, they came to the conclusion that they were both as tough as each other, under test conditions, both had fair share of hills etc etc. Of course the P coy staff at the time would have probably recce'd the area at the time just to prove this theory.
Been a long time since I been on the shot area, but by Caesars camp was there a housing estate on the other side of the wall?..and was it top of flagstaff where you could get a view of Farnbourough airport?..


Yes, From Caesars Camp, or Flagstaff as some call it, you can see;

Canary Wharf, The Shard, Wembley Stadium (When the roof is up) The devils Punchbowl at Hindhead, Farnborough Airfield, Aldershot, Guildford, Fleet, Mytchett, Camberley & Sandhurst & Lower Star Post.
The M3. The M4 & Reading.
Broadmoor Hospital & Didcot Power Station.

The housing Estate that you are on about is behind Hungry Hill & the ridge running east to west, Called Sandy Hill Estate built in the early 70's. The reason why Caesars camp ranges are no longer used for live firing since the mid 70's.

There is another estate to the East called Bricksbury Estate built in the 30's.
 
#20
Wow you know the area well....must be all those Friday afternoon tabs over the years! he he..
Figured that Caesers camp must have been some type of range at some point, hence the name. Did wonder how youd get to those houses next to it, what town/village it would come under and how youd get to them. Reference the views, did not think you could see that much from top, London and Didcot must be 40 odd miles away at the crow flies. Then again, the only time I was up there I was usually blowing out my arrse and too knackered to notice!
 

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