OK Here we go Inf views on BOWMAN ??

#1
Involved as i am somewhere in the Inf BOWMAN cycle i want to hear from all their views on it so far .............
No i cannot buy you another Comms System - if i had the money i wouldnt be doing this fu??$ing job would i..

Abuse aside any feedback on usage in / on ops and training would be appreciated.


Lets get started..................
 
#2
I'm currently in Helmand Province in Afghan and my view of the Bowman is it is utterley sh1te. We are lucky if we get over 6k out here with it and that's on 20 watt output. It is not soldier proof either. Tac Sat is excellent and PRC 320 is much better then Bowman. Apparantly Bowman works well in the UK. That'll be fine if we ever have another civil war then!!!
 
#4
Have used it on tour before and as soon as we got away from our base couldn't get comms with anyone.

No one I knew had faith in it. Found it a tad to complicated for me but then again no-one had the chance to give me much training on it.

Edited to say sorry am not inf. So disregard my last.
 
#5
I'm a Sigs NCO in the TA, any news on when conversion courses will be available at Warminster? I love it there, cushy courses, nice accomodation and lots of squaddie cock hungry bints in the local area - and that's just by hanging round the married quarters long enough!!
 
#7
Bowman? Crikey heck as like back when it were black n white we used semaphore. Tell that t' kids o t'day an they dint beleive a word o it! Y' dint na thee is born ya wee nippers. :D
 
#9
Warrior Poet,

I'm the respectable gent - away from the army environment, girlfriend, kids and such like. When I'm in uniform like now in the TA, or in my regular days, something kicks in mate and I just become a slag!!
 
#10
The limitations of the BMN system up to company level were known some years ago. That is why a replacement was planned. Sadly, this replacement (ISD 2009) is, apparently, in danger of cancellation or "descoping". Probably politically incorrect to approve a replacement before BMN delivery has been completed.
 
#11
If tht little button pad doesnt stop pressing itself in my day sack i'll shoot the fcuker. Comms in afghan i agree are about as good as using argos action man walkie talkies underwater.

I used my mobile to ring home yesterday. That fits into my pocket and weighs a couple of grams. It cost me £100 and if i drop it in a puddle it still works!
 
#14
Take 2 wrote:

Im all for the mobile phone, far more realiable and no one needs any training on it! surly a secure version can be invented

Yes... its called BOWMAN...
 
#15
Er, yeah. Good idea, mobile phones for everyone, you could use regimental numbers for phonenumbers!!!.

One minor problem. It is called Infrastructure. Ie. Who will put up all the masts and then control the network of 100's of concentrators and trunk links.
 
#16
Um..... ok but as stated is it not shite? not that I can personally back that up, as Id left befor it came in. But in this post people dont seem to happy with it? has it now fully taken over and in Army wide use?
 
#17
The problem with BOWMAN is it's been rushed into service before its been properly developed (Think the SA80 A1) As for range etc, thats down to physics and landscape than any faults with the system I'm led to believe although I will bow to Fallschirmjagers practical experience here.

As usual it will be the troops on the ground who make it work and problem solve but from what I've seen, the secure voice is good and the Situational Awareness aspect could prove a life saver and thats got to be a good thing.
 
#18
chocolate_frog said:
Er, yeah. Good idea, mobile phones for everyone, you could use regimental numbers for phonenumbers!!!.

One minor problem. It is called Infrastructure. Ie. Who will put up all the masts and then control the network of 100's of concentrators and trunk links.
Put the Signals in charge of it! Then they can be responsible for all the masts etc. and with maintenance. COULD work. MAYBE. :?
 
#19
That the Royal Corps' would be responsible for such a system is a given, but what about the defence and sustaining of the many concentration stations needed? What about OOA ops? and of course in an advance the Royal Corps' would have to lead the way.
 
#20
Uh... Royal Engineers in partnership with the Sigs! Ah-HA! Engineers erect the damned things, so they go in front with a couple of sigs and infantry, and establish the things.

Im thinking fast here, people...
 

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