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clayp1g

War Hero
As has been mentioned on an earlier post Ugly, Archer and I had a look over a straight pull SLR over the weekend.

The question is, now it has no gas parts and new barrel, will there be a slight increase of mv due to some of the gas, not being bled off to cycle the working parts?

Standing by with helmet on... thanks.
 
A minimal difference I think, as the round has already reached near max mv by the time it passes the gas aperture. Just my tuppence.
 
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PrinceAlbert

Guest
Nope, none, zilch, nada. As stated above, mv is reached before the gas would be ported off to the working parts.
 
It would depend if the length of the barrel was matched to the burn-time of the propellant . Generally the effect would be marginal but if the barrel was stupid long then it may affect it.
 
I seem to remember it's something like 0.5%, which is less than the standard deviation of the mv anyway, so is very difficult to measure.

The only data I've seen which showed a meaningful difference was for .300 Whisper subsonic loads in an AR15 with gas on & off, but then you've got FAR less powder, and sh1t loads (proportionally) is taken off very near to the chamber. I could look it up if someone cares.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
Book Reviewer
Can you still call it an SLR then?

If it doesn't do the SL part?
 

Andy632

Old-Salt
Can you still call it an SLR then?

If it doesn't do the SL part?

You can if you're an old fart who used the originals!

If you're a young fart, you can call it something like a "straight pull FAL or L1A1" or a "big black gun thingy."
 

105AVRE

War Hero
i had my hands on a Imbel FAL in .308/7.62 a few weeks ago...with bipod and scope fitted... very front heavy....had to put my name on it.....not guaranteed to get it....but it got me all excited...hehehe
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
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i had my hands on a Imbel FAL in .308/7.62 a few weeks ago...with bipod and scope fitted... very front heavy....had to put my name on it.....not guaranteed to get it....but it got me all excited...hehehe

Will the "excitement" not make the prone position a tad uncomfy?
 

105AVRE

War Hero
quite possibly...hehehe (-;=
 

David TS

Swinger
As has been mentioned on an earlier post Ugly, Archer and I had a look over a straight pull SLR over the weekend.

The question is, now it has no gas parts and new barrel, will there be a slight increase of mv due to some of the gas, not being bled off to cycle the working parts?

Standing by with helmet on... thanks.
That'll be the Anglo Custom one then ;-P

I'll let you know when I pick mine up, hopefully next week.
 

David TS

Swinger
You can if you're an old fart who used the originals!

If you're a young fart, you can call it something like a "straight pull FAL or L1A1" or a "big black gun thingy."
I'm an old fart, but I didn't get to fire the originals, so i'm not sure what I should call it :|
 

clayp1g

War Hero
That'll be the Anglo Custom one then ;-P

I'll let you know when I pick mine up, hopefully next week.
Well did you get it?????
 

David TS

Swinger
Well did you get it?????
It should have pitched up at my FEO today :) (along with another one for someone else, coincidence!), but I can't get there to pick it up until Friday :crying:

I have seen the pictures from another couple of lucky new owners that have theirs over on Milsurps, they look good, lucky beggars!
 
With shotguns, you do notice more recoil in pump-actions compared to semi-autos of comparable weights.

Not sure if the same would apply to gas-operated rifles, as the above effect may just be due to the blowback action.
 

David TS

Swinger
Finally.......



Pictured with a couple of its chums ....spot the imposter.



What is striking is that the year of manufacture of the Enfield .303 No 4 MK II and the SLR is just six years apart - just shows what a quantum leap the SLR was as a battle rifle whan it came into service.



The SLR is out on its first range day next Saturday - it's going retro next (wooden furniture)











 

ugly

LE
Moderator
Our one for testing should be here soon, we will run it in comparisom to Claypigs BAR15 to see if there is an ergonomics argument for copying the cocking handle ideas.
 

David TS

Swinger
Our one for testing should be here soon, we will run it in comparisom to Claypigs BAR15 to see if there is an ergonomics argument for copying the cocking handle ideas.
Testing....I like that :)

Mine lasted two days before I fitted the wood, here's last Sunday morning's project:





Before the start:









I wonder what happens if I take out this little screw here? o_O









And after....some will like it better before conversion, some will like it better after. Me? After, thankfully .











 

ugly

LE
Moderator
Ah me likey either way although I liked the triangular wooden forends!
 
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