Oh Dear, the Hate on Sunday is at it Again

#1
"A Labour MP has begun a libel action against a Sunday newspaper which claimed he swore at a House of Commons security guard . . . . .

. . . . . . had twice told a newly-recruited security guard, Christopher Ham, to "f*** off" "

The story
 
#2
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
 
#3
lsquared said:
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
Can't really agree with you on the newspapers.

However the arrogance of the MP in question is just what I expect from these w@nkers. I hope the Courts tell him to shove it. :twisted:
 
#4
Aren't MPs supposed to be servants to the people?

If any MP rips into somebody doing his job like that he should be trussed up against a fence in brixton and left to the locals, to remind him of his place. Maybe then he'll learn why we need people to set an example
 
#5
technicaldifficulties said:
Aren't MPs supposed to be servants to the people?
If any MP rips into somebody doing his job like that he should be trussed up against a fence in brixton and left to the locals, to remind him of his place. Maybe then he'll learn why we need people to set an example
Oh thats a good one - cheered me up no end. Think I'll buy myself a cappucino :D
 
#6
"Mr Jones then said something he regrets. "He said: 'I don't give a s*** who you are, you should know who MPs are'.
"I didn't swear at him - I swore in front of him," replied Mr Jones.
His initial insult was directed at the guard, not just in his presence! In this day and age when everything is so PC, the MP should know better and set the example. He shoudl now recieve a vote of no confidence or be the bigger man and step down!

Followed by the rest of the Labour Government!

OS
 
#7
The MP wears a bow-tie during daylight. That should be enough to convince the jury that the man is a **** and is not trustworthy.

Hope he is bankrupted by the trial and the Hate also screwed for costs - it is a bit like watching Tonee Bliar and Gordon "I'm not a pederast" Broon fight to the death: you want both of them to kop it.
 
#8
I must admit, I love a good read of the Hate, whatever day it's sold. It sets my day up. I feel anger and agression at the Government, immigrants and all other people I like to hate. Good stuff.

The MP in question is an oaf. Sven, your statement reads as if you're defending him, surely not the case?
 
#9
Dread said:
The MP wears a bow-tie during daylight. That should be enough to convince the jury that the man is a **** and is not trustworthy.
As a man who wears bow ties on occasion at home of an evening I'll let that statement slip young man.
 
#10
lsquared said:
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
Well there's a surprise, Lsquared and the Mail of the same mind :roll:
 
#11
Bravo2nothing said:
I must admit, I love a good read of the Hate, whatever day it's sold. It sets my day up. I feel anger and agression at the Government, immigrants and all other people I like to hate. Good stuff.

The MP in question is an oaf. Sven, your statement reads as if you're defending him, surely not the case?
If it had been an SNP MP I would have had the same reaction, saying 'I don't give a sh1t' is not an insult, it isn't swearing at a person.

That the defence lawyer said "even if the MP had not used the exact words alleged . . . . . ." infers that the Mail blew up the story, making up a conversation that was worse than it was.


As far as what the MP did - He was wrong to do so. The guard was just doing His job and was entitled to ask anyone for their identification. There are over 600 MPs in the house and to expect anyone to remember that many personalities is rather silly. Given that, the MP recognized that He did wrong and saught out the guard to apologize.
 
#12
Sven said:
Bravo2nothing said:
I must admit, I love a good read of the Hate, whatever day it's sold. It sets my day up. I feel anger and agression at the Government, immigrants and all other people I like to hate. Good stuff.

The MP in question is an oaf. Sven, your statement reads as if you're defending him, surely not the case?
If it had been an SNP MP I would have had the same reaction, saying 'I don't give a sh1t' is not an insult, it isn't swearing at a person.

That the defence lawyer said "even if the MP had not used the exact words alleged . . . . . ." infers that the Mail blew up the story, making up a conversation that was worse than it was.


As far as what the MP did - He was wrong to do so. The guard was just doing His job and was entitled to ask anyone for their identification. There are over 600 MPs in the house and to expect anyone to remember that many personalities is rather silly. Given that, the MP recognized that He did wrong and saught out the guard to apologize.
No argument on that, he was doing his job. The MP is a public servant and whilst the majority of the public in this Country swear, I would rather our politicians conduct themselves with a little more decorum and less like a Prima Donna, Z list celebrity.

He'd have been the first one to whinge had he been blown up.
 
#13
Sven said:
lsquared said:
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
Well there's a surprise, Lsquared and the Mail of the same mind :roll:
Considering the Mail outsells all the other papers put together, I should imagine that Lsquared's gang is a lot bigger than your spotty little one.
 
#14
Awol said:
Sven said:
lsquared said:
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
Well there's a surprise, Lsquared and the Mail of the same mind :roll:
Considering the Mail outsells all the other papers put together, I should imagine that Lsquared's gang is a lot bigger than your spotty little one.
Lol
 
#15
eveyuk said:
Dread said:
The MP wears a bow-tie during daylight. That should be enough to convince the jury that the man is a **** and is not trustworthy.
As a man who wears bow ties on occasion at home of an evening I'll let that statement slip young man.
Sorry Eveyuk, but I'm with Dread on this one. Key is that you wear yours AT HOME and in the EVENING. This knob jockey is clearly cut from a different cloth to you.

AY
 

DangerMouse

Old-Salt
Moderator
#16
The Daily Mail...

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Daily%20Mail

Racist, sexist, slanderous, homophobic, unprofessional, sensationalist and information-free "newspaper" that would print things that would make Hitler feel a bit uncomfortable, if they thought there was money in it. The dead-eyed, hate-filled pieces of crusty, tapeworm-laden s##t that prolong their worthless lives by writing for this paper gleefully fabricate stories to portray anybody with the slightest conscience or capability for rational thought as being some kind of satanic deviant. (Students? Workshy hypocrites! Foreigners? Untrustworthy criminals! Homosexuals? Murderous paedophiles! Single mothers? Root of all evil! Immigrants? Bottom-feeding oxygen thieves!)

It tries to pretend it isn't a tabloid, nobody knows why, as the empty headed sheep who buy it would probably still do so if it had typhoid-infected razorblades glued to each page. Everyone I've ever seen reading this paper looked miserable. With the exception of my Gran, who reads it 'cos she doesn't know any better, hinting that at one dim and distant time, the paper actually contained some news.

The Mail is a large contributor to the common opinion that all journalists are scum, and newspapers are increasingly becoming an embarrassing anacronism.
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=963413

...newspapers can almost be considered political parties of their own. Take the Daily Mail, the fascist, middle class, minority-hating piece of toilet paper that it is. They have a manifesto - immigrants/asylum seekers/homosexuals are bad, family is good, moral standards must be upheld. They have constituents/voters - the readers. They have the MPs - the writers, researchers, sub-editors and reporters. They even have a leader, in the form of Paul Dacre, the editor, who whips his party up into a frenzy, and personally shapes the vision of the paper.

Not so? It's just a paper, is it? It doesn't have any effect on the country? This is a quote from a recent Guardian article* (22/2/01):

Earlier this month, one of its (the Daily Mail's) columnists, Simon Heffer, predicted that continued Labour rule would lead to 14m illegal immigrants in Britain, almost half the country's military personnel being disabled people, and "girls of nine" receiving "the morning-after pill from school dinner ladies". One of Blair's closest advisors concludes: "The Mail have gone into kill mode."

The Daily Mail has a large, middle class readership - 2,400,000 copies sold a day last year - if the paper wanted to change the government and the way people think, they could. Easily. Who's to say they haven't already? How many decisions have been affected, how many politicians gained/lost seats, how many times have things like the continuing failure to repeal Clause 28 happened? People believe what they read, despite our best efforts, especially when it's dressed up as respectable journalism. See, it's not a tabloid, like the Sun, but is actually a "compact newspaper". The advertising campaign (party political broadcast?) which had the slogan "Good reading always shows" was laughable, but was just another step in convincing people that this is a "proper" paper, and that you should believe what it tells you.

There's a Depeche Mode song called New Dress, which pretty much sums up this writeup. It talks about newspapers that put pictures of Princess Di's new dress all over the front page instead of important news stories about famine, murder, and intolerance (written before her death, obviously, but change the names and the song remains the same...) The chorus says: "You can't change the world / But you can change the facts / And when you change the facts / You change points of view / If you change points of view / You may change a vote / And when you change a vote / You may change the world." Think about that, before you believe a newspaper's spin on a particular story. Try and find out the facts for yourself, and then decide. Please. For everyone's sake.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=daily+mail&defid=2413885

1. Snobbish and obsessed with 'proper diction'

2. Obsesses over royalty, members of the aristocracy, and the upper classes in the same way that the Sun obsesses over Z-list celebrities and WAGs

3. Home to Richard Littlejohn, a self-satisfied prick who can't spell the name of the Iranian president and therefore refers to him as President I'madinnerjacket; insists upon spelling things phonetically to make himself feel superior; scaremongers over: taxes, Gordon Brown, so-called 'political correctness' and the apparent failures of the UK police force; displays clearly bigoted views yet claims not to be racist

4. Home to Amanda Platell, who is clearly a female misogynist and hates Natasha Kaplinsky, presumably purely because, despite her many flaws, she isn't a moon-faced, woman-hating cow who writes for a tabloid rag

5. Home to a whole host of prejudiced idiots whose parents were probably Daily Mail readers and members of the National Front; they should be sat down and told that not all immigrants want to kill them, and no immigrants want their job. In fact, NOBODY wants their job.

6. Actually believed that bird flu was going to wipe out half the world; believed the same about every single so-called epidemic before it; predicts The End Of The World every other month, whether it be by asteroid, epidemic or nuclear war

7. Read by impressionable fools who base their own opinions on the Daily Mail's bullshit

8. Has an on-off feud with The Times; hates The Independent, Polly Toynbee, Tony Blair, and, surprisingly, David Cameron, because he does not subscribe to their particular brand of Right-wing politics; disdains the Sun, the Daily Star, the Mirror and the News of the World despite being only one rung above them (purely because their page 3 happens not to have a topless woman on it); sister paper to the Daily Express

9. Believes everybody should have a job, regardless of illness, is under the impression that depression is not a valid illness and that anybody on benefits is Leeching Off the Welfare State and Stealing Taxpayer's Hard-Earned Money

10. Obsessed with Taxpayer's Money and the fact that they are taxpayers

11. Obsessed with hating speeding fines and speed cameras

12. Has to have an article EVERY SINGLE ****ing DAY about 'PC gone mad', purely to further its BNP-loving, homophobic, racist, Islamophobe agenda

13. Constantly self-publicises, telling its readers that it has won another award or that one of its precious 'campaigns' have made the world a better place. Fond of saying 'as we always said' or 'as the Daily Mail has said from the start'

14. Believes date rape and marital rape are completely acceptable, and that all women should join the Submissive Wives movement

15. Exaggerates everything

Daily Mail headlines:

"MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO KILL US ALL BY UNLEASHING BIRD FLU INTO THE AIR!!1 AND THEN THEY WILL STEAL OUR JOBS!!1"

"The Queen is awesome!"

"I am Richard Littledick and EVERYTHING IS BAD AND WRONG and I am a ridiculous, reactionary, pathetic buffon!!1"

"I'm Amanda Platell and I hate all women but ESPECIALLY NATASHA KAPLINSKY!!1"

"Everybody but us sucks"

"GET A JOB! I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE HOOKED UP TO A VENTILATOR!"

"We r taxpayers, hurr hurr"

"Speeding cameras ARE SO CRAP!!1"

"Look; it's PC gone mad! A man was ARRESTED for beating up a Muslim! The horror!"

"WE WIN @ LIFE! LOOK, AN AWARD FOR MOST HOMOPHOBIC NEWSPAPER OF THE YEAR!!!!!1!!!!1!!"

"Shut up about being raped and make my tea"

"THE TRAUMA OF BEING STOPPED FOR SPEEDING!!!!!
British newspaper aimed at conservatine, middle class housewives. Regards itself as a serious newspaper despite the fact that it is clearly tabloid.

It claims to be a moral voice of the people but is in fact a paper designed to indulge the quasi-racist/homophobic/b igotted views held by much of middle england.

The paper loves nothing more than creating a moral panic and has done so over the years on subjects ranging from hoodies to water bottles.

The Daily Mail typically finds time to bleat on about the terrible state of Britain today in its police force, NHS, Education system and policy on immigration. It is truly creative in finding a whole bunch of ways of paraphrasing "Kick all asylum seekers out. We hate foreign people".

The Daily Mail burns rather nicely and is just the right size to cover cat litter trays.

Typical Daily Mail headlines:

"Black person gets job"
"Presenter says word sex on TV"
"My angelic little girl was made to wear a hoodie by a gay immigrant paedophile communist"
 
#17
D-M - Yours is a long one (the post!) so I'll keep this short.

WTF is that all about - quotes from your first link reveals this tw@t wrote it:
he is trying to live a Zen lifestyle!!!!! FFS give some decent links, not nutters :twisted:
 

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#18
I think the fact that he wears a bow tie during the day and is not
a) A latin teacher
b) A consultant Surgeon from 1965
c) A clown

Hang on, maybe c) could be true

Means that he is likely to be guilty of pretty much everything thrown at him!
I
 
#19
Awol said:
Sven said:
lsquared said:
I regard The Mail on Sunday, The Daily Mail and the Evening Standard as excellent papers.

I also regard the MP in question as a self-important, puffed-up, noxious little prat.

Sitting as judge and jury, I hope he is taken to the cleaners.

I suppose the security man has lost his job.

I wish one of the Parachute Regiment battalions would be placed on 'security' duties in Parliament and see how many of the repellent socialist 'trots' sneer, cheek and swear at some of those guys!
Well there's a surprise, Lsquared and the Mail of the same mind :roll:
Considering the Mail outsells all the other papers put together, I should imagine that Lsquared's gang is a lot bigger than your spotty little one.
I've found the figures and I really must research things before firing from the hip! Google put me onto this:

Arab Media Watch!

I am surprised the Mail's figures are so high - I thought they were doing much worse than that!

Litotes
 

DangerMouse

Old-Salt
Moderator
#20
OK then, short summary: The Daily Mail is a homophobic, xenophobic, racist, misogynist, bigoted, jingoistic tabloid which feeds on, reflects, and amplifies the worst fears of naïve and ignorant Little Englanders. It has a pernicious effect on the public discourse, coarsening the tone of political debate, and savaging those who dare propose nuanced, analytical, and less extremist perspectives. The country would be a lot better off without it.

Lance Price (www.lanceprice.co.uk), a BBC political correspondent for seven years, wrote this about it: (http://media.guardian.co.uk/bbc/story/0,,1999227,00.html)

…The Mail, of course, has a particular gift for instilling fear. Never an issue goes by without it warning readers that modern Britain is a nasty, dangerous place that should be ventured into only with great caution. Stray too far and you are likely to be attacked and brutalised by any one, if not all, of the following: violent criminals, illegal immigrants, paedophiles, mad mullahs, foreigners, and officials of the EU. Far better to stay inside with the Daily Mail and turn your face from the window.

…I believe Dacre [editor of the Mail] is fundamentally wrong. … Wrong in thinking that the Daily Mail comes closer to representing the views of the majority of British people…

The Daily Mail has its view of the world and that's that. You can take it or leave it, and many of us chose to leave it. The BBC does indeed paint a different picture of Britain. More culturally and politically diverse, more open and more broad-minded. It can be guilty of an establishment bias but its airwaves are open to the public as never before to express more or less whatever opinions they like within the law. Sometimes those opinions reflect those of Mr Dacre. More often they do not.

That, I believe, is why Dacre is really so angry with the BBC. It's starting to dawn on him that, having been a master of political and cultural propaganda for so long, he's beginning to lose his touch. Or rather, Britain is moving on and leaving him behind.

How does he know? Because even the Conservative party has abandoned his agenda, or says it has. David Cameron routinely denounces Daily Mail values because he knows that the broad centre of public opinion in this country, to which he has to appeal, doesn't agree with them. Dacre thinks that because people buy his paper they agree with its politics. Cameron is calculating that many of them don't, and he's surely right.[/i]
 

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