Offshore Patrol Vessels

They could have painted some more guns on.....






(It's Saturday morning and I'm bored so I thouht I'd just stir up that argument again....)
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Like the fake gunports on old merchant ships? By jove, I do believe you've hit on something there. Let me see, cost of 4 30mm cannon against cost of 4 tins of black.paint? I shall write to the Ministy this very morning.
 
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Like the fake gunports on old merchant ships? By jove, I do believe you've hit on something there. Let me see, cost of 4 30mm cannon against cost of 4 tins of black.paint? I shall write to the Ministy this very morning.
Not seen that before.

Looks like - and, has the same intention of deception as - the "Go Faster Stripes", on your bog-standard Fiesta or Viva !! ;) .
 
Like the fake gunports on old merchant ships? By jove, I do believe you've hit on something there. Let me see, cost of 4 30mm cannon against cost of 4 tins of black.paint? I shall write to the Ministy this very morning.


Not seen that before.


A french Squadron happened upon a small unescorted convoy of Indiamen painted in the RN chequered fashion - A convoy the squadron could and should have torn apart.

The British commander instead of running - sailed at the French who mistook them for a powerful RN force.
The French Squadron seeing itself massively out gunned promptly buggerred off.
 
A french Squadron happened upon a small unescorted convoy of Indiamen painted in the RN chequered fashion - A convoy the squadron could and should have torn apart.

The British commander instead of running - sailed at the French who mistook them for a powerful RN force.
The French Squadron seeing itself massively out gunned promptly buggerred off.
And so, we come full circle . . . Deploying a huge OPV, very lightly armed (some may say inadequately !), in the hope that it will impress, deceive, "the natives" . . . who may/may not, be a gullible as the French :( .
 
And so, we come full circle . . . Deploying a huge OPV, very lightly armed (some may say inadequately !), in the hope that it will impress, deceive, "the natives" . . .

Oh not at all,

For that task we allways used a small lightly armed vessel and said vessel was sufficient for constublary duties ie chasing pirates and encouraging states not to bugger around with our friends ships / fishing / people / borders .

Nobody was impressed by the ship as such - but they were by its presence - for that indicated the UK took an interest , reinforced by the certain knowledge that if you did demonstrate just how easy it was to sink said little undergunned warship - Subsequent retribution would be swift and extensive
 
Oh not at all,

For that task we allways used a small lightly armed vessel and said vessel was sufficient for constublary duties ie chasing pirates and encouraging states not to bugger around with our friends ships / fishing / people / borders .

Nobody was impressed by the ship as such - but they were by its presence - for that indicated the UK took an interest , reinforced by the certain knowledge that if you did demonstrate just how easy it was to sink said little undergunned warship - Subsequent retribution would be swif
Might have been true back in the day

Reality is now that the RN is unlikely to have retribution within a thousand miles. Retribution will still be sitting alongside in Portsmouth.
 
Might have been true back in the day

Reality is now that the RN is unlikely to have retribution within a thousand miles. Retribution will still be sitting alongside in Portsmouth.
Nah, it'll just be a tired and rather less impressive T23 being crashed out of whatever programme it previously had...*

Rather less impressive, with the same 4.5" gun to spoil your day!

*I may be speaking from experience.
 
Oh not at all,

For that task we always used a small lightly armed vessel and said vessel was sufficient for constublary duties ie chasing pirates and encouraging states not to bugger around with our friends ships / fishing / people / borders .

Nobody was impressed by the ship as such - but they were by its presence - for that indicated the UK took an interest
, reinforced by the certain knowledge that if you did demonstrate just how easy it was to sink said little under-gunned warship - Subsequent retribution would be swift and extensive
Without you using "emojis", I can’t be certain . . . but, I think you’re doing sarcasm again . . . aren’t you ?! ;) .
 
The UK is one of surprisingly few countries that can still park a warship (or three) off the coast anywhere in the world to indicate Her Majesty does not approve of this sort of show.

The RN is small - much smaller than I'd like - but it does still have significant capacity to project power. And credible power, too: our frigates and destroyers are quite fiddly to get rid of, and starting a full-scale war with NATO is low on most people's priority list.
 
Not seen that before.

Looks like - and, has the same intention of deception as - the "Go Faster Stripes", on your bog-standard Fiesta or Viva !! ;) .
SS Great Britain. Well worth a visit as loads of IK Brunel stuff and very well set out. Fake gun ports painted on to warn off pirates etc, all that could be seen from a distance was a ship.. ..with gun ports and a Dirty Harry 'do I have no cannon or do I have 20 cannon? Make my day...' attitude.
 
And so, we come full circle . . . Deploying a huge OPV, very lightly armed (some may say inadequately !), in the hope that it will impress, deceive, "the natives" . . . who may/may not, be a gullible as the French :( .
Steel is cheap air is free. Bigger is better as you can squeeze more stuff in it if and when you need to.
 

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We also armed our ships with massively less capable weapons, ensuring we needed more to them to have the same striking power.

7” and 64lb guns were going to make an adversary of the day take note.
These were medium calibre guns de jure, definitely not the Victorian equivalent of a 30mm.
 

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Id argue the Gannet was more akin to a sentry Frigate - such as the French Floreal class rather than an OPV

Which really is where B2 OPVs should be Classified - they are actually as big or bigger than most peoples Frigates - see the opinion of some in the RN they should be up armed with a medium calibre gun, (no excuses now we’ve gone for the Mk110) and some lightweight missiles.
 

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