Offshore Patrol Vessels

[alfred_the_great]

The OPVs are three watch manned - there are enough bunks/lockers that you don’t have to take your kit off every time you go on watch leave. Their manning is pretty much the same as the manning the batch 1s had.

 

[RumRationReject]

The OPVs are three watch manned - there are enough bunks/lockers that you don’t have to take your kit off every time you go on watch leave. Their manning is pretty much the same as the manning the batch 1s had.

Honest question:
How do they rotate through the top jobs? Skipper/XO/Navs etc??

 

[alfred_the_great]

The OPVs are three watch manned - there are enough bunks/lockers that you don’t have to take your kit off every time you go on watch leave. Their manning is pretty much the same as the manning the batch 1s had.

Honest question:
How do they rotate through the top jobs? Skipper/XO/Navs etc??

CO and XO in one pairing; then CO and 1st Lt (acting up as XO); then XO in temporary Command and 1st Lt (acting up as XO).

Navs has an opposite number (so there are periods they overlap), likewise the Gunnery Officer etc.

That concept also flows down to key senior and junior Rates.


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[Bus Pass 01]

Question to anyone in the Andrew, will this Class replace the Scimitar/P2000/Archer Class? Note a patrol boat capability is claimed.

HMS Magpie now ready for first sea trials

 

[RCT(V)]

Question to anyone in the Andrew, will this Class replace the Scimitar/P2000/Archer Class? Note a patrol boat capability is claimed.

HMS Magpie now ready for first sea trials

Someone with better IT equipment than my "smart phone", will provide you with a LINK to the discussion/answer posted earlier .

 

[Kromeriz]

UK Subs have either a two-crew or an augmented-crew system. The two-crew subs are exactly what the name suggests, the single crew subs have about 150% of the crew they need take to sea, and of the 50ish extra people, some will go to sea as "additionals" to enable them to gain the qualifications and experience they need to fulfill their rôle, and some will be left behind to take leave or attend training courses. The larger part of these extra people are engineering types who tend to be busy carrying out maintenance when the subs are not at sea, and therefore do not have the same opportunity for leave/courses during these periods. For a "shooting war" none of the normal "additionals" are required as a necessity, but others (who may or may not be part of the crew) would be taken to strengthen the resilience of the crew. I would guess that it is this augmented-crew model which is being adopted by these ships.

Is that both the SSNs and SSBNs?

 

[Joe_Private]

Is that both the SSNs and SSBNs?

SSNs all have one crew. Of the 4 BNs, two have two crews (Port and Stbd), one has a single (Gold) crew, and the one in refit enters and leaves refit with a single Gold crew, and whilst in refit has a smaller refit crew.

 

[Kromeriz]

SSNs all have one crew. Of the 4 BNs, two have two crews (Port and Stbd), one has a single (Gold) crew, and the one in refit enters and leaves refit with a single Gold crew, and whilst in refit has a smaller refit crew.

Thank you @Joe_Private

 

[Yokel]

Back to OPVs: Royal Navy 'keen' to keep batch one River class ships

But what about the manpower? Will the personnel numbers be increased by approximately 150? Where will these people come from?

Retaining the batch ones would allow the batch twos to be used for non fish tasking.

BTW I was unable to open this link using Firefox. Russian hacking?

 

[Magic_Mushroom]

...But what about the manpower? Will the personnel numbers be increased by approximately 150? Where will these people come from?...

The standard answer is that you'll have to find the liabilities from within current RN Top Level Budget (TLB) manning; ie, identify redundant or long term gapped posts and transfer those to where you want. Realistically, you're not able to touch those in other TLBs (eg RN Jungly aircrew in JHC which falls under Land).

Of course, getting the liability is the easy part; filling the resulting JPANs with pink bodies of the correct SQEP is entirely different! However, look on the bright side: when they're gapped you can transfer the liability and start the process all over again...

Regards,
MM

 

[Yokel]

We are still using MCMV personnel to augment the OPVs:

HMS Mersey marks National Fish and Chip Day

Normally an OPV has three watches as described above. With less people than that, achieving the same level of tasking is demanding involves long patrols. However, running an OPV for less days at sea per year than normal tasking would reduce the manpoower need.

 

[SamYeager15]

I see the RN managed to get some TV coverage from BBC Breakfast this morning.

 

[Bus Pass 01]

Some painful reading here?

HMS Tyne to be reactivated as now delayed Offshore Patrol Vessel fleet faults worse than feared

 

[Gravelbelly]

Question to anyone in the Andrew, will this Class replace the Scimitar/P2000/Archer Class? Note a patrol boat capability is claimed.

HMS Magpie now ready for first sea trials

It would be a shame, HMS Archer's a lot better looking (I drive past it on my way to work, except when it's away teaching).

Looking at the spec, it appears that the Archer class are slightly larger and carry a larger complement...

 

[DPM_Sheep]

Some painful reading here?

HMS Tyne to be reactivated as now delayed Offshore Patrol Vessel fleet faults worse than feared

Bodes well for T26. Should be bloody recharging them the taxpayers money that got ploughed into TOBA if they can't even get a simple OPV out the door....

 

[Joe_Private]

Some painful reading here?

I heard the "broken boltheads glued on" dit earlier this week.

 

[DPM_Sheep]

To be fair, sticking threadlocking glue on bolts is pretty standard. Sounds more like they were over-tightened and sheared off. The Loctite just hid the mistake.

 

[Lindermyer]

To be fair, sticking threadlocking glue on bolts is pretty standard. Sounds more like they were over-tightened and sheared off. The Loctite just hid the mistake.

Nah

You know when you've sheared a bolt

Even a little a low torque brass stud you feel go ( and then swear blind you were using the corrects torque driver and not just a ratchet with correct size socket )

If that particular tale is true - someones deliberately hidden a mistake

 

[Joe_Private]

To be fair, sticking threadlocking glue on bolts is pretty standard. Sounds more like they were over-tightened and sheared off. The Loctite just hid the mistake.

It wasn't threadlock, something I'm very familiar with, it was sheared boltheads glued on to give the impression that fasteners were virgo intacto.

 

[DPM_Sheep]

It wasn't threadlock, something I'm very familiar with, it was sheared boltheads glued on to give the impression that fasteners were virgo intacto.

Thats... troubling.