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Officer transferring from Inf to RE

#1
I am an infantry officer (Lt, grad) who is a bit disillusioned with the infantry currently. I have been on tour as a rifle platoon commander but am unlikely to get the opportunity to do it again as my Regiment is off the Herrick rotation. The Regiment is also amalgamating with all the heartache that involves as well as the reduced job prospects for everyone from SNCO upwards.

I thought about joining the Sappers at RMAS but chose inf instead and am now wondering if I made the wrong choice.

I have a couple of questions that I would appreciate answered.

Is it possible to transfer at pre-Captain level?
Who would I need to speak to in the Corps?
Would it impact upon my career greatly (ie would it be suicide)?
What is the geo-cell like as a job?

Thanks
 
#2
Try SF (whatever tier), or aviation , or ask for an MA / ADC job or whatever. What I'm getting at is step up, don't step down.

If you go from the infantry to a CS unit without trying the above you'll look back and regret it, I'd have thought.....??
 
#4
I have thought about different inf jobs inc MA and ADC but they are jobs, I would still be inf.

As for SF, I have thought about it but the timing isn't quite right. Even if I was lucky enough to pass, then I would still return to RD after a couple of years
 
#6
I have thought about different inf jobs inc MA and ADC but they are jobs, I would still be inf.

As for SF, I have thought about it but the timing isn't quite right. Even if I was lucky enough to pass, then I would still return to RD after a couple of years
Not necessarily true. If you end up somewhere else (and I offer SF or Avn as a couple of examples) and you do well, you can stay within those organisations. If you "step down" to the Gunners / Sappers / Sigs or wherever, you'll regret it for a long time, I'd suggest.
 
#7
What I'm getting at is step up, don't step down.

If you go from the infantry to a CS unit without trying the above you'll look back and regret it, I'd have thought.....??
While your advice is good, that's a pretty arrogant statement to make. I doubt many sappers would consider themselves a 'step down'.
You managed to get in first and lessen my 'outrage'. Try asking CGS about the notion of 'stepping down' and it wasn't that long ago that we had AG and CDM as well. Although I'm sure that chasndave has plenty of evidence and personal experience to substantiate his rather extraordinary statement.
 
#9
The bloke you need to speak to is the RE desk officer in Glasgow. He'll give you the low down on what the chances are and any other stuff you'd need to do. Their troop commander's course is pretty long I think? He'll also offer an assessment on what the impact is on your career.

I did the pilots course as a junior Capt, along with loads of my contemporaries, so have some experience of the impact of changing cap badges at a relatively similar stage. In my opinion, it does have a moderate impact on your career prospects but that is far better than staying in a job you don't enjoy!

By the way you didn't mention what was making you disillusioned but I expect it is to do with your hierachy? In that case a tour away from the Regt/Bn might be the way ahead. Don't you guys all expect to do your 2nd tour in a training establishment?
 
#11
Apologies to BCO but I have to add that the short-term view mustn't obscure the long-term one, even if it's hugely enjoyable. The essential thing is where you will be afterwards, and how you see your pensionable age being spent.
 
#12
Interesting and of course we're all different. Personally I'd have never have made it to my pension point if I hadn't been doing something I enjoyed.
 
#13
How do you know that? =-D

Not my point, though. I can't emphasise the 'pension' point enough to my ******** (RE) son of 23 years of age, because he doesn't believe that he's not going to live until the 1000 year point. How many points are needed?
 
#14
The RE Troop Commanders Course is around about 6 months in length, split between 3 RSME and 1 RSME. If you aren't that far into your career it shouldn't do you too much harm. As for going geo, you need to have some form of relevant degree but I'm not that clued up on what Geo's requirements are, it would be worth speaking to the Royal School of Military Survey to find out what they deem as suitable.

As for chasndave, what a ******* belter, stepping down indeed!
 
#15
The RE Troop Commanders Course is around about 6 months in length, split between 3 RSME and 1 RSME. If you aren't that far into your career it shouldn't do you too much harm. As for going geo, you need to have some form of relevant degree but I'm not that clued up on what Geo's requirements are, it would be worth speaking to the Royal School of Military Survey to find out what they deem as suitable.

As for chasndave, what a ******* belter, stepping down indeed!
Quite right too! Having had to manage, supervise and administer your badmin Plant Life, I can confirm that moving to the infantry would be a step down in regards to leadership skills and capability.
 
#17
I am disillusioned for a few reasons:

I joined to be operational, I have done that but look unlikely to do it again (please don't say another conflict is just around the corner, I won't be platoon commanding and unlikely to be company commanding but sat behind a desk) Peace-time infanteering means confused exercises currently while it is decided whether we are living in woodblocks Cold War style or focussing on COIN in between lots of time spent in camp chained to DII and missing sports afternoons.

Losing a Bn and the changed TOS means IRC and beige are increasingly hard, if I went RE then I would have more skills if I left after SSC (not that I currently want to)

Maybe the infantry isn't what I thought it would be, AT, sports afternoons, leave etc. constantly missed, not that I am wanting a cushy time but if I was in a more fulfilling job then I could accept it more. The small size of a Battalion family means it is hard to get to do things like expeds unless someone up high wants it done. Also means that jobs etc. require being in the right place at the right time or else the post gets filled.

Maybe I am being truculent and wishing for sunshine and lollipops but morale amongst Captains in the inf is fairly low and I am not sure whether post-Herrick the infantry will be an organisation I enjoy or not.
 
#18
Maybe the infantry isn't what I thought it would be, AT, sports afternoons, leave etc. constantly missed, not that I am wanting a cushy time but if I was in a more fulfilling job then I could accept it more. The small size of a Battalion family means it is hard to get to do things like expeds unless someone up high wants it done. Also means that jobs etc. require being in the right place at the right time or else the post gets filled.
Do not think its any different in the Sappers. If there is work that needs to be done, it is.
 
#20
............I've been in 7 years, and I've never met a single officer who has taken all their allowance.
Really? You don't know many people then do you. I've been in a damned site longer than that and if I knew 7 years worth of officers who hadn't taken leave I would be questioning a) their integrity, b) their ability to manage their own and their subordinates time, c) their chain of command for allowing it to happen.
 

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