Officer Redundancy in Infantry

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napier

LE
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#1
DCI 07/05 announces 120 x Reg C (YoB 1960-74) and 20 x IRC (LE) offrs to be 'selected' for compulsory redundancy. The selection board will sit in Jun 05, with those selected out by end Jun 06. I believe the package will be 18 months salary, but no immed pension unless already entitled (correct me if I'm wrong). So, do you feel lucky - Punk!?
 
#2
Hmmm, intersesting. I had sight of one of the 1200 letters that Inf MCM Div have sent out to their people; interesting reading...

The redundancies are Inf and CAMUS only, Officers in Phase 1 (who may apply) and soldiers in Phase II (who may not apply).

This is interesting (on the officers) as the agegroups shown would see many beyond Inf RD and at E2 employment. Why then was this package not widened to include the wider Army?

I'm sure we could do with losing a few of the lesser committed chaps from the other Arms as well :p

I've already had enquiries (at work) from a number of interested Inf officers who are now seriously considering applying (all Majors).

Of course 18 months salary tax free is not a bad incentive :D

Think how long (on such a meagre remuneration package) it would take to save that sort of money?

:wink: :wink:
 
#3
Any statistics on how many Inf officers are trying to re-badge? I've heard that the numbers this year are obviously high (and only now February), but clearly it can't come as any surprise :(
 
#4
Re the rebadging thing - Not yet.

Of course none of the desk offrs in Inf MCM I have spoken to since Monday have a clue - after all ppl do have to submit paperwork thru CO etc...

That said, a source very close to Freddie (Mil Sec) told me this afternoon...

"The Mil Sec reckons this is a fabulous opportunity for the average inf offr. After all its not every day that such an opportunity rears its head. Quote: If I was an Inf offr I wuld be jumping at this opportunity.. tough luck as Freddie is a one-time Gunner :wink: "

The Inf mentor at the APC, our own (and highly regarded Col Stewart), is reported to have spent 26 hours signing 1200 letters to the troops...

"Bugger me" he is reported to have said "I know that my right hand gets a lot of use but this was way and above the call of duty"

Today I received a further 4 phone calls from Inf majors enquiring...

and the first 2 inf Lt Cols in our org telephoned me today to ask some questions....
 

chimera

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#5
MS_Rep said:
I'm sure we could do with losing a few of the lesser committed chaps from the other Arms as well
Except that many of the other Arms are gaining manpower at your expense, so why keep on Infantry officers who are unemployable at RD or E1, when the other Arms are expanding.
 
#6
chimera said:
Except that many of the other Arms are gaining manpower at your expense, so why keep on Infantry officers who are unemployable at RD or E1, when the other Arms are expanding.
Also some of the other Arms and Services are already short of manpower, so I doubt very much that this will ever be considered seriously.
 
#7
MS_Rep said:
: "

The Inf mentor at the APC, our own (and highly regarded Col Stewart), is reported to have spent 26 hours signing 1200 letters to the troops...

"Bugger me" he is reported to have said "I know that my right hand gets a lot of use but this was way and above the call of duty"

....
Best letter I've had for some time. Good on the Col - in my case 5 seconds well spent!!!
 
#8
tattybadger said:
MS_Rep said:
: "

The Inf mentor at the APC, our own (and highly regarded Col Stewart), is reported to have spent 26 hours signing 1200 letters to the troops...

"Bugger me" he is reported to have said "I know that my right hand gets a lot of use but this was way and above the call of duty"

....
Best letter I've had for some time. Good on the Col - in my case 5 seconds well spent!!!
So you might consider the package then?

I know I did during "Options", but then got Pink Listed so the problem went away....
 
#9
18 months salary doesnt seem all that appealing on a voluntary basis. But if you know you are going to get released from service I guess its not a bad deal.
 
#10
MS_Rep said:
tattybadger said:
MS_Rep said:
: "

The Inf mentor at the APC, our own (and highly regarded Col Stewart), is reported to have spent 26 hours signing 1200 letters to the troops...

"Bugger me" he is reported to have said "I know that my right hand gets a lot of use but this was way and above the call of duty"

....
Best letter I've had for some time. Good on the Col - in my case 5 seconds well spent!!!
So you might consider the package then?

I know I did during "Options", but then got Pink Listed so the problem went away....
Wrong tense old chap. Only pink list I want is one in the FT!!
 
#11
tattybadger said:
MS_Rep said:
tattybadger said:
MS_Rep said:
: "

The Inf mentor at the APC, our own (and highly regarded Col Stewart), is reported to have spent 26 hours signing 1200 letters to the troops...

"Bugger me" he is reported to have said "I know that my right hand gets a lot of use but this was way and above the call of duty"

....
Best letter I've had for some time. Good on the Col - in my case 5 seconds well spent!!!
So you might consider the package then?

I know I did during "Options", but then got Pink Listed so the problem went away....
Wrong tense old chap. Only pink list I want is one in the FT!!
I was pink listed too:

check this out:

http://myweb.lsbu.ac.uk/~stafflag/pinklist2000.html
 

napier

LE
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#12
Having now read the DCI, you'll all be glad to know that being tossed onto the scrap heap/SNLR does not mean that you can't/won't be called up as a reservist. In fact, there is probably some logic in making someone redundant and then calling them up for Iraq, etc. in order to take the pressure off those still serving. There is also a reference to having to repay some of your pay-off if you join up again within 2 or so years - does that include being compulsorily mobilised?
 
#13
Has anyone got a copy of this fabled letter available electronically? I'm stuck in Baghdad, know I'm in the bracket but haven't seen it yet. Presumably snail mail from APC
 
#14
Could someone explain to me why the Army is spending so much money on recruiting new officers and at the same time trying to give some the push. Surely rebadging is the only sensible solution. It seems a waste of time, money and more importantly, experienced officers.
 
#15
New officer's make less money than Major's for example.
What happen's if an officer isnt selected for Lt Colonel ? Is he allowed to stay until retirement ?
 
#16
in_the_cheapseats said:
Has anyone got a copy of this fabled letter available electronically? I'm stuck in Baghdad, know I'm in the bracket but haven't seen it yet. Presumably snail mail from APC
have you got access to the Defence Intranet? If so click on the Army Portal then the DCI link. The DCI is there now - it tells you if you are in the bracket. Good luck.
 
#17
Tempting or what having just spoken to APC.

Over 100,000 tax free lump and a 12,000 p/a pension from the day after "the push".

The instant pension is for anyone who has served over 12 yrs (only because it is compulsory redundancy) as opposed to 16 yrs as usual. The chance to bang out at 33 with an instant pension and mooch wonga is tempting - so guess what; The DCI states that those who have served between 12 and 16 yrs there will be a max of 30 redundancies in that service bracket. I assume this is to stop all the 30 somethings leaving with the golden parachute without having to wait until 37 for the instant sweetener.
 
#18
Over 100,000 tax free lump and a 12,000 p/a pension from the day after "the push".
Fcuk me.

Will the last one out of the Infantry please turn off the lights?

I'm off to write a policy paper on how I really don't work very hard, and there are lots like me, and we really ought to be given the push, and it's really not that bad, as long as there are some, ahem, compensations, Tone, I mean it's only fair, mate innit....
 

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