Officer leaking info about me

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  1. I wonder if anyone has had a similar experience and if so who did you report it to. I found out this weekend that my fiancés friend who I do not know and never had any interest in knowing, has been abusing the army system to find out info about me so that he and his wife can find something to break us up, as he thinks that I am not good enough for her as I am a Corporal, I know its very weird and to be honest I have never been so insulted or so annoyed by anyone since I have been in (12 years).
    We are not even in the same corp, I am from a combat arm and most of my career has been spent in the field, avoiding camp as much as possible. However he has said that I am a loser as I have not reached a rank that he deems acceptable in his head!. He is a ranker and for some reason he and his wife are intent on wrecking my relationship.

    So what he has been doing is getting info about me and sharing it when he gets home with his wife who is a civilian and my partner also a civilian I have nothing to hide but I do not like the fact that my information is being accessed and shared willy nilly by some bloke I have never met!.

    I have told my partner to tell them that whatever he has been collecting about me is destroyed and to cease doing this delving mission he seems to think he needs to do, or else I will have to take action.

    They have told her that if she continues to stay with me then they will not be able to socialise with her as much as they would like and that it will put a strain on their friendship.

    As you can guess I am pretty livid about the whole affair and I cant get my head around it as I have never come across anything as strange as this nor have I heard of anyone ever being so bloody rude, it is not like I am a crap soldier I have loads of quals through the army I work hard have a few tech trades and have my share of medals and I have been an instructor in an ATR, In my private life Liam a normal bloke who loves his kids and spends as much time with my missus and mine and her kids as I possible can, I don’t even go out drinking.

    So what would you do as this is getting on my tits?
     
  2. If you are absolutely sure this is happening then you have no choice but to call in the RMP.
    If what they have been doing is correct as you say then he is in deep kak.

    Probably breaking the DPA, Computer Misuse Act et al.

    It is a serious offence(s) he is committing but be prepared as you other half may not appreciate the reprecussions.

    HH
     
  3. Or you could always man up and grow a pair before giving him a vist for a one to one chat.
     
  4. Hi lads, thankyou for the input, I am glad that you think it is illegal HH for half the day I was thinking maybe I was going mad so thanks. I think I will try and get some evidence though before I have to take it further as they may side with him and label me a trouble maker.
    As for going around there I would love to but for that moment of justice having it out with him would cost me alot and things need to stay the way they are as I have my kids to think of. But you are right aswell Gordon if I had nothing to lose I would have done.
     
  5. If he is obtaining information on you that he has no authority/reason to, then he is in breach of the data protection act. I would report your suspicions to the RMP imediatley. If he is obtaining the information through IT systems then there should be some kind of audit trail that can be analyzed that will prove/disprove your suspicions. A list of those who have accessed your records can be verified to ensure those who have accessed records relating to you had the authority to do so. This will also highlight if someone else has accessed systems on his behalf. Any suspected breach of the data protection act must be thoroughly investigated especially in the current climate where government departments are being thoroughly investigated after the recent data/Laptop losses (HMRC, DVLA, MOD etc).
     
  6. Unfortunately I know from my own experience, that under the DPA an individual can only be instructed to desist from accessing information. That's the court point of view, although the CoC may have a different take on things if it can be clearly shown that this happened.
     
  7. I would say that if you need keep things cordial with this individual, having the RMP or CoC turn up on his doorstep is going to have a far worse effect than a quiet word.

    What evidence do you have, and what redress do you seek? If you have some form of documentary evidence such as e mails which indicate what he has been up to, and all you want to do is get him to stop, then a private word may well have the effect you desire. If you really don't want to have any contact with him, then you are going to need to go to the appropriate authority if you want action taken. I would strongly recommend speaking to your CoC before going to the RMP. Whoever you speak to is going to ask you for evidence, so you need to think about how you can get your hands on something that demonstrates his unauthorised access to your personal records. There is a big difference between slagging someone off, and committing an offence under the DPA.

    Or maybe your fiancee could ask this individual to stop what he is doing on the basis that he is wasting his time?

    Finally you say that the individual concerned is a 'ranker' but you use 'Officer' in the thread title, which is it?
     
  8. Also what information do you think he/she has access to? Unless he is your direct chain of command he will not have access to your P File (held by unit in hard copy) and certainly no access to JPA - not that much is on there anyway.

    Med files are secure in the med centre, same with dental.

    So what do you think a person is "leaking"?

    There's more than a few error's in terminology and inconsistencies in the story so far.
     
  9. He's probably doing your bird mate.
     
  10. /sensible response

    I can see whay any person would only want the best for their kids, but this guy obviously isn't very bright if he hasn't realised that his behaviour is just going to drive his daughter away. My first thoughts are that I would talk carefully to your fiancee, make certain that she knows about her dad's behaviour and is supporting you. After all, it is her family we are talking about here, she knows them the best.

    Perhaps it may be more appropriate for her to talk to her dad initially, challenge him and ask him what exactly he has got against you or whether he hates her so much that he wants to see her unhappy? That might make him think a bit about what he's doing.

    Next stage (give her a few days to talk to him) then raise the issue of him having a bit of a nose around your P file (chances are, that's what he's been looking at). You could say something to your fiancee along the lines of "I don't like this, and other people have become aware of it and are asking why he is accessing restricted personnel material (It is) for his own purposes. If we don't get him top stop this, then next move is going to be the RMP" Hopefully that will drive her to have another "daddy-daughter" chat.

    If that doesn't work, tell him face to face that you understand how much he loves his daughter, but he surely it isn't right that he is allowing his own insecurity to threaten his daughter's happiness. Tell him he has to accept that you also love her, and would he rather see her living a life of hell with an officer to suit his own snobbishness or a life of bliss with a squaddie she is in love with. And if he carries on as he has done, then you may have to refer to it in a letter which will have to be copied to the CO, possibly even the RMP

    And if the two attempts through your fiancee and your own (very polite) confrontation all fail, that is exactly what you must do

    /sensible response ends

    Alternatively, take a poke at his missus. Might as well go out with a bang as a whimper.
     
  11. pyro, you may wish to re read the originators thread. I dont think its the blokes fiancees daddy. Just her mates other half.

    Please tell me you dont work for social services? 8O
     
  12. Thanks TLF, I fecked that one up good and proper.

    It's still down to this bloke's fiancee to sort out, not him. If she can't sort it and back him up, then he should have a word himself. If they can't hack it, then escalate it and enjoy what happens to people who nose around in things they shouldn't.

    Personally, I would start to think twice about marrying a woman who valued her friend's opinions above mine or didn't stand up for me.

    No, not social services mate, more like anti-social services (check profile, then you'll understand the nick and the reference to my being behind the light)
     
  13. RTFQ, pyro, ;)


    I think the bloke should just bubble the tosser to the rossers and tell them he touches kids in inappropriate places (Flashy points to rude part on doll).
     
  14. Thankyou for all your advice it is much appreciated I will find out next weekend if there has been anymore activity. As for the use of "ranker" where I come from it is a term used to describe an officer who has gone through the ranks from private, It was just to let you know that he had been a junior rank himself once and has been in my shoes if you catch my drift.

    And Papa_Lazarou thankyou for your input but I dont really need my post red penned, I was only after advice mate.
     
  15. As Papa asks, what sort of information do you think he has access to? You say he is not in the same Corps but is he part of the same unit and CoC or not?

    If he wasnt in your unit, his access to personal information about you would be extremely difficult unless he has a mate at Records and even then he would be sticking his neck out.

    Are you confusing his access to personal information with his access to gossip which is well known around your unit or that you have told your woman?

    Could your woman be making it up to get you to change your ways? (It wouldnt be the first time....snakes with tits mate, snakes with tits!)

    I would be interested to know your answers to the above.