Officer joining physical training corps

#3
Not as a DE. I assume that you can through the LE route.

whf
 
#4
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
 
#5
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.

How long ago was this? It would appear odd that 2 x APTC Sgts attempted the CC as the junior rank in the APTC is Sgt and those two chaps would have only just "joined" - it seems a lot of faith to have been placed in these two. It would also have been very odd to send them on the CC to join the APTC without the opportunities to go to different corps or regiments in line with everyone else on the course.
 
#6
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The current CO is under 50 & he's Ex Para Regt! :D
 
#7
Needless to say I've no personal experience of these matter, but I'm fairly certain I've read in all the careers bumph floating around that the APTC is only something you can transfer into after a given period of service, in the same way a soldier cannot directly join as a PTI (as far as I'm aware).
 
#8
Shifty17 said:
Needless to say I've no personal experience of these matter, but I'm fairly certain I've read in all the careers bumph floating around that the APTC is only something you can transfer into after a given period of service, in the same way a soldier cannot directly join as a PTI (as far as I'm aware).
DE officers can't transfer into the APTC, if that is what you are suggesting.
 
#9
barbs said:
DE officers can't transfer into the APTC, if that is what you are suggesting.
Clearly misread something then. Purely out of curiosity, how come? I'd have assumed the APTC would require the same staffing structure as the rest of the Army.
 
#10
barbs said:
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.
The highest rank in my Corps is a General, although I do not think he is an LE
 
#11
Shifty17 said:
barbs said:
DE officers can't transfer into the APTC, if that is what you are suggesting.
Clearly misread something then. Purely out of curiosity, how come? I'd have assumed the APTC would require the same staffing structure as the rest of the Army.
The APTC does not have the same structure as the majority of the rest of the Army's Corps and Regiments. The APTC is responsible for physical fitness and education. The requirement to be a PTI means that they will tend to specialise to the point that it is difficult to return to a mainstream.

APTC soldiers can commission into the APTC (or elsewhere) and serve as LEs. They fulfill roles in PT policy and trg policy on the staff, unless thay are suitable for branching out, which tends to be unusual as they have a large E1 liability in relation to their commissioned numbers.
 
#13
harietcress said:
Hello,
I was just wondering if officers can join the physical training corps.

Thanks for your time,
Hariet
Used to be the case that only the RAF commissioned officers directly into the physical training branch; they had to be qualified PE teachers.

Don't know if this is still so...
 
#14
barbs said:
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.

How long ago was this? It would appear odd that 2 x APTC Sgts attempted the CC as the junior rank in the APTC is Sgt and those two chaps would have only just "joined" - it seems a lot of faith to have been placed in these two. It would also have been very odd to send them on the CC to join the APTC without the opportunities to go to different corps or regiments in line with everyone else on the course.
To be honest, I don't know. Just rumour I've picked up from the LEs I've worked with. And you're right in what you say, I don't even know if they went PT Corps or elsewhere.
 
#15
Wessex_Man said:
harietcress said:
Hello,
I was just wondering if officers can join the physical training corps.

Thanks for your time,
Hariet
Used to be the case that only the RAF commissioned officers directly into the physical training branch; they had to be qualified PE teachers.

Don't know if this is still so...
with the somewhat unfortunate abbreviation PEdO ...
 

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#16
AFA06 said:
barbs said:
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.
The highest rank in my Corps is a General, although I do not think he is an LE
The point he was making is that Colonels and above are in the General Staff hence their post nominals are 'Late Queen's Royal Blankshires' (L/QRB) etc. So any Generals are not in your Corps.
 
#17
barbs said:
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.

How long ago was this? It would appear odd that 2 x APTC Sgts attempted the CC as the junior rank in the APTC is Sgt and those two chaps would have only just "joined" - it seems a lot of faith to have been placed in these two. It would also have been very odd to send them on the CC to join the APTC without the opportunities to go to different corps or regiments in line with everyone else on the course.
Barbs,

No doubt you are right, but an APTC LE Col? Had not come across any of those. Nor, I must admit had I come across any LE Cols recently.

whf
 
#18
wehappyfew said:
barbs said:
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.

How long ago was this? It would appear odd that 2 x APTC Sgts attempted the CC as the junior rank in the APTC is Sgt and those two chaps would have only just "joined" - it seems a lot of faith to have been placed in these two. It would also have been very odd to send them on the CC to join the APTC without the opportunities to go to different corps or regiments in line with everyone else on the course.
Barbs,

No doubt you are right, but an APTC LE Col? Had not come across any of those. Nor, I must admit had I come across any LE Cols recently.

whf
There used to be one at HQ Scotland in the 80s.( I suppose that proves your point :oops: )
 
#19
wehappyfew said:
barbs said:
Nickhere said:
They tried it once apparently, and sent two Sgts to do the DE route. But because of the PT corps size, the highest rank is Lt Col, so these DE fellas would be looking at promotion in their mid-30s where as the PT corps won't promote you to Lt Col until 50 or so. So I'm told anyway.

So, as a result, all PT Corps officers are LEs.
The highest rank in all Regiments and Corps is Lt Col so that one doesn't fly... and there have been/are LE Cols.

How long ago was this? It would appear odd that 2 x APTC Sgts attempted the CC as the junior rank in the APTC is Sgt and those two chaps would have only just "joined" - it seems a lot of faith to have been placed in these two. It would also have been very odd to send them on the CC to join the APTC without the opportunities to go to different corps or regiments in line with everyone else on the course.
Barbs,

No doubt you are right, but an APTC LE Col? Had not come across any of those. Nor, I must admit had I come across any LE Cols recently.

whf
I don't know any APTC Cols either. But I do know an RMP LE Col.
 
#20
As I noted, I was sure you were right. Must admit in nearly 20 years, have never come across one, but clearly they are out there.

whf
 

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