Officer Application To The TA / CMT

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  1. Hi all

    I'm taking my RSW next weekend with a view to joining as an officer. I have a few questions that I hope you guys can resolve;

    The RSW has been arranged by my local unit, and I've been told that I have to undergo phase 1 along with everyone else and will then "go off somewhere - I'll find out where later". The unit doesn't seem to be too confident of exactly what will happen and I'm a bit concerned as to whether they will actually put me forward for this second phase. A few comments have been passed that I might be hanging around, or it might be better for me to do phase 2 as a squaddie etc. Any guidance you could provide would be most grateful.

    To further complicate things, I'm also about to begin a clinical job in the local ambulance service. They don't appear on the SaBRE list of active supporters. I've enquired before about joining the TA as a CMT; called the unit and they asked "What job do you do?" I then worked in IT and told them so - "No vacancies".

    Now I am shortly to begin a job in the ambulance service (selection approved but contract not signed), I'm thinking they might be more receptive and that the non-SaBRE list ambulance service might find it a bit more palatable that I have joined. I've not asked them about this yet as competition is just so fierce I don't want anything to rock the boat.

    Does anyone have experience of a similar situation?

    Is there such a thing as an officer CMT? I was told the officers in these units are largely administrative (apart from the Doctors obviously).

    Any help would be much appreciated.
  2. i'm not going down the officer route myself.

    However during your RSW weekend there will be a lecture at some point regarding more information about officer training.

    Mention this to whoever is in charge of your group and they will make sure that you are at the right place at the right time.

    This is what happened on my RSW at Strensal anyway. Unfortunatly the communication between your battery and training brigade is poor. That's just the way it is.

    Hope this helps.
  3. I am in a similar boat, I went along to my local unit and told them I wanted to join as an officer, they told me to go and do RSW and phase 1 like everyone else then go to a RTC for mod 2 before doing RMAS mod 3 and then mod 4.
    They didn't know when I would be doing AOSB Beifing or main board. this was in December.
    Since then I have spoken to an officer recriter (Col) and there is a different route you can follow (which is what I am doing) you do all your modules at a RTC then go off to your local unit once you have a commission, obviously your local unit needs to be happy with this and you will have spoken to the CO etc. I am doing my AOSB Briefing in March and once passed that (hopefully) I will start mod 1 training at RTC and I will do main boarc sometime after mod 1 training.

    This way seems to make more sense to me as you will only start training once you have done briefing and so if you fail briefing then you won't have wasted your time and others in getting kit and doing some of mod 1. Also you will be doing all your module trianing with other POs and see the same guys on the weekends away.

    PM me if you want to if I ave explianed it very clearly.
  4. Well even I am confused about the answers above and I am a CMT and going down Officer route now. I'll tell you what I know.

    No you can't be a CMT and an officer. You do one or the other (or you can do your CMT then do your officer training if you wish). There is no benefit in you doing your CMT3 if you are training as a paramedic- you will be vastly over-qualified and will want to progress through to CMT1 ASAP- a minimum of a year between courses, so you are looking at 2 years min.

    If you want to be an officer in a med unit you will be an MSO (look it up). Otherwise, there are plenty of other units that want young officers- go through as a TASO.

    You will have to complete your RSW and phase 1 training no matter what unit you join or route you chose. If you choose CMT you will go for your CMSR(V) 2 weeks, then your CMT3(V) another 2 weeks.

    If you go officer you still do your phase 1, then you do at least 10 weekends at an RTC (mod 2), then a week on a field exercise (mod 3), then you go to Sandhurst (mod 4) for three weeks.

    For many RTCs you will need to have passed Main Board, not just Briefing to get on the course.

    My advice, take it easy, get the phase 1 done and talk about your options along the way. Units aren't very clear on the second part of the training but your RTC will. They will also have someone whose job it is to recruit officers. So ASK!

    Good luck!
  5. Cheers guys,

    I'll have a chat with the DS this weekend and just lay my cards on the table. It's just nice to have a bit of knowledge so as to be able to ask the right questions.

    Is it feasible / acceptable for me to say if I'm unable to be an infantry officer I'd like to be a CMT or does that seem to be too much of a leap?

    Birduk, good advice mate; many thanks! I'm starting as an Assistant Practitioner with the ambulance service; will I still be more qualified than an entry level CMT do you think?

    What is the difference in commitment (if any) between being a CMT and an officer? It's my understanding that as a 'specialist' you don't have to commit as much time - do CMT's fall within this category? Is it generally accepted that officers have to commit to every other weekend? I'm worried about the weekends away fitting in around my shifts.
  6. To be honest, CMT3 is pretty basic level stuff, so your civi qualifications will soon overtake them. Honestly, you'd be quite frustrated, BUT you will be an asset to any unt that needs a CMT with your background.

    You can try to go infantry officer- go through Briefing/Board whilst doing your phase 1. You can even do your CMSR whilst you are waiting if you like (I highly recommend it). Then you can make your choice. Try for infantry officer, if it doesn't work out, just do your CMT course and be a bod for a while (even in an infantry unit- we need them too). You will have a lot more experience on the ground and learn how the men and women 'tick'. Remember we turn up because we want to!

    In terms of commitment, you are confusing being a 'specialist' with being in a 'specialist unit'. They have less commitment required for Bounty. But if you are in an ordinary unit, even as a specialist, you will need the higher commitment.

    Officer-wise you will probably need to commit more time in order to do justice to your men- you aren't really any good to your unit if you never turn up to do your job. BUT at the same time, the actual level of commitment for Bounty is the same as anyone else.

    For your training as an officer, you will need to put it above anything else- and there is a lot of training. So your weekends would have to be freed up. You get the dates well in advance so don't worry. Otherwise, Summer Leader is an option if you can get the time off work?
  7. Cheers Birduk

    Just a few more questions;

    What is CMSR?

    What is Summer Leader?

    Please forgive my ignorance
  8. Try the search function- lots of info there. I can't type it all out for you. Good luck! :D