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Ocelot is now FOXHOUND

#2
Good news I think, once the creases have been ironed out maybe, just maybe, we can develop it so it goes some way to replacing the three million different vehicles we have all doing very similar things

This has good export potential as well, on the face of it, a world beater
 
#3
Good news I think, once the creases have been ironed out maybe, just maybe, we can develop it so it goes some way to replacing the three million different vehicles we have all doing very similar things

This has good export potential as well, on the face of it, a world beater
In terms of current ops, I would see variants of FOXHOUND replacing:
- Snatch
- WMIK
- Jackal
- Coyote
- Husky (possibly, assuming it can manage the same payload)


Longer term, I could see it replacing some of the 'B' vehicle fleet - enough perhaps to sustain 1 or 2 Bdes. I think it's becoming clear that OUVS doesn't have the cash to replace every Defender, Wolf, Pinz, RB-44 in the Army with something with a credible level of protection and mobility, and that being the case, my opinion is that we should have enough of these sort of things to equip a likley deployment and buy ourselves a load of Ford F-250 for use in the UK or benign environments.



Edited to add: Amongst others, the Aussies are seriously interested, and as soon as JLTV falls on its arse, I would see this being a very strong contender for their competition.
 
#10
Ocelot...Foxhound...

Do they play "Metal Gear Solid" or am I a geek?

On-thread: 30 minutes turnaround on mission fits, am I the only one to think this is a tad optimistic?
 
#11
OK, so I'm not interested in what it looks like, all I want from vehicles our guys use, be it in theatre or at home is that they are safe.

Names, however, Ocelot sounds fast, like Coyote, but then Ocelots are cats and this hasn't got tracks!

As some bloke once wrote ... "What's in a name? That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

I would point out that Puma and Jaguar are cats and they are used for aircraft, so perhaps that's the MoD's reason?
 
#12
In terms of current ops, I would see variants of FOXHOUND replacing:
- Snatch
- WMIK
- Jackal
- Coyote
- Husky (possibly, assuming it can manage the same payload)


Longer term, I could see it replacing some of the 'B' vehicle fleet - enough perhaps to sustain 1 or 2 Bdes. I think it's becoming clear that OUVS doesn't have the cash to replace every Defender, Wolf, Pinz, RB-44 in the Army with something with a credible level of protection and mobility, and that being the case, my opinion is that we should have enough of these sort of things to equip a likley deployment and buy ourselves a load of Ford F-250 for use in the UK or benign environments.



Edited to add: Amongst others, the Aussies are seriously interested, and as soon as JLTV falls on its arse, I would see this being a very strong contender for their competition.
WMIK, really?
 
#14
Yep, there are already plans afoot to produce a version with a WMIK-type crew pod. The beauty of the design is that it allows different pods to sit on top of a common vee-hull chassis.

Of course, there will be a debate to be had as to whether it really needs to be 'cut down', and if so whether this is due to situational awareness or 'allyness' arguements!
 
#18
I cant see it replacing Jackal and Coyote as you will never get the off road performance that you get from these platforms. You would have to develop a six wheeled, long wheel base to get the load capacity of coyote. This beast would be impossible to get down the back alleys and roads which you could with a snatch.
 
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#19
So what is it for??????????

another UOR piece of crap that has no point other than making politicians feel better.


Another logistics nightmare, another tail wagging the dog.
 
#20
So what is it for??????????
Commanders in Afghanistan continue to say that they need a light vehicle, smaller and more mobile than Ridgback, that can carry a fire team into some very inaccessable places. They had such a capability with Snatch/Vixen - trouble was that people kept dying or losing limbs every time it hit a mine or IED.

So reason 1 is a direct replacement for Snatch (or Shank's Pony)

Commanders also maintain they need a light, mobile vehicle capable of carrying out BRF and fire support duties. WMIK and Jackal do this, but see comment above ref the disadvantages of a messy death or disablement.

So reason 2 is a replacement for current light wheeled vehicles such as WMIK/Jackal.

Tactical support vehicles are needed to get ammo/water/rations to where they're needed, without killing the echelon guys in the process. We currently have Husky and Coyote doing this job at the medium/light role. Husky is well protected - Coyote...well...it's a Jackal with an extra set of wheels.

So reason 3 (concievably) would be to replace both Husky and Coyote in this role.


another UOR piece of crap that has no point other than making politicians feel better.
I think it will also make a lot of soldiers feel better in the knowledge that the chances of them deploying and returning with the same number of limbs have increased.




Another logistics nightmare, another tail wagging the dog.
If we can replace 2 or 3 types of vehicle with one, surely this helps in reducing the logistic burden?
 

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