bomb-int said:
strima said:
bomb-int said:
strima said:
bomb-int said:
We do free postage to BFPO

(we also sell
Ballistic Oakley's, but i dont think that you guys are aloud to wear them - even thou they are better than what you are issued!)
Are they better? Even better than the new issue ones being procured at the minute?
Well the US Army use Oakley, as do most SWAT Teams worldwide. I understand that the British Army have done a deal with ESS and Oakley's are not aloud to be worn, even they are the same "Ballistic" standard.
I may be wrong about this, but this is what i understand....
You'll find its about insurance and liability. Nothing to do with what's better.
You claim they're better but some one may buy these on your recommendation only to find they lose an eye and have no right to claim compensation due to your advice.
Oakley SI Ballistic M Frame 2.0 Sunglasses - Specifications
Fully compliant with all ANSI Z87.1-2003 protection requirements
Fully compliant with MIL-PRF-31013 Vo Ballistics
Is this not better than the issues ones?
No - they are exactly the same specfication. However, the in-service glasses were selected on performance. All contenders for the contract had to meet the minimum specification above however the ones selected exceeded it. So, if you buy these very nice Oakleys, are you getting the same protection as the issued ones? No. Will they fit the corrective lens inserts? No. Will you be able to get them changed if they get trashed on ops? No. Can you be sure about the quality control - is an independent organisation, responsible for providing you with the best protective kit, checking manufacturing quality, factories, batch testing of these off-the shelf glasses? No. Do you want to waste your hard earned money on something that may or may not do the job when you get issued something that does work, for free? No doubt somebody will cos they look ally. Will the system refuse to help such an individual when he loses an eye because his glasses failed? No - of course not, but what about the expense to the MoD, the ruining of his life, the risk his friends, the MERT team etc were put to to get him back to medical treatment? And all because he wanted to look a bit different and ally!
Bomb-int: your role as a site sponsor is much appreciated. But please do not try and trash the issued kit with half-truths and rumour over something that is of life-saving importance in order to secure a profit. The suggestion that "a deal has been struck" between MOD and ESS in order to prevent Oakley's being worn is unworthy.