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Nuclear weapons to become illegal

Charles1948

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Personally I would just put a large net attached to the ground with bungee cords over the top of each of the silos. Then when the missiles tried to come out the bungee cords would bounce them back in again where they would blow up. That's probably a lot more practical than trying to stand outside the silo with an SMG and shoot through the flames and smoke at a missile.
Yes, that's exactly the kind of approach the Russians will use. No high-tech stuff - just apply elementary principles. Such as, for example, digging up lots of dirt with a shovel, and piling it up on one side of the concrete sliding lid of the silo tube. This will jam up the sliding lid, and stop it opening properly. Thereby preventing a missile launch.
 
Yes, that's exactly the kind of approach the Russians will use. No high-tech stuff - just apply elementary principles. Such as, for example, digging up lots of dirt with a shovel, and piling it up on one side of the concrete sliding lid of the silo tube. This will jam up the sliding lid, and stop it opening properly. Thereby preventing a missile launch.
Just slip a wedge in under the edge of the lid. That'll stop it from opening for sure, and probably nobody will notice it before it's too late either.
 

Charles1948

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Just slip a wedge in under the edge of the lid. That'll stop it from opening for sure, and probably nobody will notice it before it's too late either.
The wedge would indeed offer a more elegant solution. However, the Russians might shy away, as they have always respected, and indeed, feared, the precision of American engineering. In some ways this precision could represent a weakness. As in the comparisons between the rugged Russian AK-47 and its more delicate US equivalent.

However when it comes to blocking up the exit hole of a US Minuteman nuclear missile, the Russians would probably go for the cruder, but safer option of shovelling dirt into it.
 
Yes, that's exactly the kind of approach the Russians will use. No high-tech stuff - just apply elementary principles. Such as, for example, digging up lots of dirt with a shovel, and piling it up on one side of the concrete sliding lid of the silo tube. This will jam up the sliding lid, and stop it opening properly. Thereby preventing a missile launch.
So much dirt. You understand those launch closure doors weigh about 110 tons.

While again breaching the fence, and letting SF know that you are someplace you should not be.
 
The wedge would indeed offer a more elegant solution. However, the Russians might shy away, as they have always respected, and indeed, feared, the precision of American engineering. In some ways this precision could represent a weakness. As in the comparisons between the rugged Russian AK-47 and its more delicate US equivalent.

However when it comes to blocking up the exit hole of a US Minuteman nuclear missile, the Russians would probably go for the cruder, but safer option of shovelling dirt into it.
Comrade, comrade.
The foreigners out here use Cameras as their tool of choice to fight the imperialist scum. Or the Chinese will use college students to take pictures with a cell phone.

Shoveling dirt is work.

But your master plan is not taking into account some times of the year, you will only reach some locations when inserted by a helo. As the roads will be closed and HP or the Sheriffs deputies won’t let you out on them.
 
The steely eyed missile men will surely have an ACME Hole which can be employed to defeat any such dirt piling and cover jamming.
 
The wedge would indeed offer a more elegant solution. However, the Russians might shy away, as they have always respected, and indeed, feared, the precision of American engineering. In some ways this precision could represent a weakness. As in the comparisons between the rugged Russian AK-47 and its more delicate US equivalent.

However when it comes to blocking up the exit hole of a US Minuteman nuclear missile, the Russians would probably go for the cruder, but safer option of shovelling dirt into it.

I’ll give you one chance to stop being a ****.

These sites are wrapped in at least three layers of perimeter defence. This includes wires and alarms.Patrolled by nasty people with lots of guns.

All before you get within SMG range of the big concrete walls and steel doors.

It’s not happening. Take it from people who have guarded the bloody things.

Now please drop the subject.
 
I’ll give you one chance to stop being a ****.

These sites are wrapped in at least three layers of perimeter defence. This includes wires and alarms.Patrolled by nasty people with lots of guns.

All before you get within SMG range of the big concrete walls and steel doors.

It’s not happening. Take it from people who have guarded the bloody things.

Now please drop the subject.
They really are benign to drive by and easy to miss if you don’t know the backroads.

These things are out in the middle of nowhere, and the locals will notice some weirdo spending to much time around them. Let alone somebody with a spotlight, a shovel, and an SMG at night. Which will also make you beyond easy to track when a Huey with a FLIR sensor comes creeping (Ha ha) up.
 

Charles1948

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I’ll give you one chance to stop being a ****.

These sites are wrapped in at least three layers of perimeter defence. This includes wires and alarms.Patrolled by nasty people with lots of guns.

All before you get within SMG range of the big concrete walls and steel doors.

It’s not happening. Take it from people who have guarded the bloody things.

Now please drop the subject.

Success Comrade Putin! We have got Amerikanski convinced that Minuteman silos are impregnable. Amerikanski will not strengthen them. Our new 10-metre accurate, concrete-busting R-27 100KT nuclear-focussed warheads, will deal with such silos as child's play!

Strategic Rocket Force awaits launch order! After US election please, as Biden will deliver victory without need for nuclear strike.
 
Success Comrade Putin! We have got Amerikanski convinced that Minuteman silos are impregnable. Amerikanski will not strengthen them. Our new 10-metre accurate, concrete-busting R-27 100KT nuclear-focussed warheads, will deal with such silos as child's play!

Strategic Rocket Force awaits launch order! After US election please, as Biden will deliver victory without need for nuclear strike.
Any takers on how many Russian ICBM’s fizzle in their silos?
 

Charles1948

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Any takers on how many Russian ICBM’s fizzle in their silos?
I remember IISS studies used to rate reliability of Soviet ICBMs as low as 70-75% But that was years ago. No doubt they have improved since.

Those same IISS studies credited US ICBMs with 95-98% reliability. Which was comforting, if possibly a bit optimistic.
 
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For some reason that made me laff. :p :mrgreen:

I should think, while it is theoretically possible to fire enough machine gun bullets at a nuclear missile as it is launching to damage it or destroy it, the odds of it succeeding must be infinitesimal. And even the Air Force is not stupid as to leave cover around the fences of their silos that could be used by secret agents to sneak up to within range. They would have surely cleared killing zones around the silo complexes and there would be Air Police with trained dogs.
 
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For some reason that made me laff. :p :mrgreen:

I should think, while it is theoretically possible to fire enough machine gun bullets at a nuclear missile as it is launching to damage it or destroy it, the odds of it succeeding must be infinitesimal. And even the Air Force is not stupid as to leave cover around the fences of their silos that could be used by secret agents to sneak up to within range. They would have surely cleared killing zones around the silo complexes and there would be Air Police with trained dogs.
A MAF has control over 10 MM3 silos.

Whilst our boy is climbing the chain link with his shovel, digging around in the frozen ground to cover the missile launch door with enough dirt to prevent it from opening and the launch sequence from completing. The Security Forces boys and girls will be creaming themselves at the chance to face plant a crazy, and if armed schwack him in what would amount to a short lived live fire exercise. The A1C’s would excessively celebrate and 5 DUI’s later, the 90th Security Forces Group commander would burn our fellow posters corpse out of spite for the unwanted mess he caused...
 

Charles1948

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For some reason that made me laff. :p :mrgreen:

I should think, while it is theoretically possible to fire enough machine gun bullets at a nuclear missile as it is launching to damage it or destroy it, the odds of it succeeding must be infinitesimal. And even the Air Force is not stupid as to leave cover around the fences of their silos that could be used by secret agents to sneak up to within range. They would have surely cleared killing zones around the silo complexes and there would be Air Police with trained dogs.
Rapid re-wind to the early summer of 1940.

The French High command is discussing possible German strategy in launching an attack on France.

Senior General speaks: "Evidemment, les Boches will attaquer par la Belgique, juste comme zey did en ze last guerre."

Young Officer pipes up: "Mais mon General, supposez que les Boches attaquer par les Ardennes?"

Senior General: "Non, non, non, idiot! C'est theoreticalement possible pour les tanks germains to aller par les Ardennes - mais les odds contre it succeeding sont infinitesimal! Les tanks runnez into les trees, et ne gettez through! Besides, nous avons le Maginot Line - et la Police de l'Air - avec trained chiens!"

Young Officer: "Ah oui, "

Plus ca change.........................
 
If it’s anything like the anti-personnel landmine convention or the convention on cluster munitions, then it’s only binding on those who sign it.
Thank God
The nuclear threat posed by Honduras been keeping me awake at night.
 
I’ll give you one chance to stop being a ****.

These sites are wrapped in at least three layers of perimeter defence. This includes wires and alarms.Patrolled by nasty people with lots of guns.

All before you get within SMG range of the big concrete walls and steel doors.

It’s not happening. Take it from people who have guarded the bloody things.

Now please drop the subject.

You suck all the fun out of mocking the feeble minded, don't you...?
 

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