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  1. Soldier_Why

    Soldier_Why LE Moderator

  2. The Army Times ran an editorial and story denouncing this porn site. The arrest may be a reaction to the bad press.

    October 10, 2005

    One dangerous Web site

    The Internet unquestionably is the most powerful, far-reaching communications tool in human history.

    But such a free and unfettered medium also has its unsavory side, embodied most starkly by an endless torrent of pornography that permeates the Web.

    One clever porn webmaster in Florida has hit upon a novel way to boost traffic to his site. He encourages U.S. troops in Iraq to send in personal photos depicting their lives in the war zone, which he then posts on a special section of his site.

    In return, he gives the submitters free access to the pay portion of his site, which is devoted to amateur porn — including skin shots of female U.S. troops in the war zone and similar photos of wives and girlfriends sent in by male troops.

    In his come-on, the webmaster is cagey, describing his solicitation of war-zone photos simply as an effort to compile “an unedited look at war” from the troops’ point of view.

    Unfortunately, many of the photos that have come in are grisly, stomach-churning shots of dead, mangled Iraqis. In some, U.S. troops preen and pose. Many carry troop-written captions, such as, “Die, Haji, Die!” and “Name this body part.”

    That this seaminess feeds the Islamic view of the West as corrupt and decadent is disconcerting enough. But the nauseating photos of dead Iraqis — with their faces blown away, internal organs spilling out, dismembered body parts on full display and with U.S. troops leering over them — go beyond the pale.

    It also could very well be illegal. The understandably outraged Council on American-Islamic Relations, a Washington-based civil rights group, said the Geneva Conventions state that the “remains of people who have died for reasons related to occupation, or in detention resulting from occupation or hostilities, and those of persons not nationals of the country in which they have died as a result of hostilities, shall be respected.”

    It’s tough to see how photos of dead insurgents with their brains spilling out, complete with “funny” captions, can be seen as any form of respect.

    The problem in dealing with this situation goes directly to the quicksilver nature of the Internet. The military can, and frequently has, blocked access to objectionable Web sites through its own computer networks in the Iraq war zone. But civilian cybercafés are proliferating in Baghdad and elsewhere in Iraq, and commanders can do little to fully police U.S. troops’ use of such alternative Internet access.

    And commanders certainly cannot police what U.S. troops do once they are back home and have access to their personal computers.

    As Army investigators acknowledge, backtracking the photos to confirm they were actually submitted by U.S. troops is extremely difficult. As such, the military plans no criminal investigation. Not enough evidence, officials say.

    That seems more than a little hasty and smacks of a desire to sweep another Abu Ghraib-style scandal under the rug.

    At the very least, military officials should examine both the porn shots and the photos of dead Iraqis to see if, in fact, any U.S. troops can be identified. If so, they should be hauled to the woodshed and punished appropriately.

    In the end, however, perhaps the only way to discourage such stupid and unprofessional behavior is to have leaders in both the enlisted and officer ranks police their own people more closely and make it clear that this will not be tolerated.

    The stubborn and intractable insurgency seems to be doing quite well as the American casualty count in Iraq marches steadily toward 2,000. We do not need our own troops handing the insurgents a propaganda prize that they can use to attract even more recruits.
  3. Seems simple to cure. Identify those in the photos, those with the cameras and those involved in publishing them. They are in breach of the Geneva Convention, so voluntarily hand them over to the Iraqi courts for trial, sentencing and punishment. Should stop any future breaches.
  4. Soldier_Why

    Soldier_Why LE Moderator

    You would think that wouldn't you? But this chap has been charged with pornography violations, nothing whatsoever to do with the 'blood and gore' snaps that have been put up. It seems that the state he lives in has obscenity laws that they are trying to charge him with, even though the server is in Amsterdam.
  5. It's all well and good arresting this chap for 'pornographic' reasons, it's all well and good banging on about US/Islamic (good) relations, but am I the only one getting this particular point.

    We, and the US are in Iraq are claiming to be a "force for good." This report suggests that disrespect of, and abuse of, the Iraqi is commonplace within the US military - even after said individual is dead. In fact, if the story is true, your 'average' GI seems willing to 'sell' these pictures in return for a free pass to a bit of porn.

    What does that say about the US military?

    Even after the Abu Ghraib expose, it seems commonplace that US military are still willing to happily go around snapping pictures of their foe - and happily pass it on for profit!


    Does 'America' really know what is going on in Iraq? I think not!