Notre Dame Cathedral ablaze

Surprised they had time to wonder about renovators, all being on their holibobs. But as noted earlier in the thread, getting repairs done does seem to be a prelude to a disastrous fire.

'The Palace of Westminster could face a fire as devastating as the one that has ravaged Notre Dame unless major improvements are made to the crumbling building in central London, MPs have warned.

'Politicians have acknowledged that action is needed to safeguard the Houses of Parliament but have spent years wrangling over the best way to proceed and baulked at the billions of pounds required to restore the building.

'The "restoration and renewal" programme is not expected to start in earnest until the mid-2020s after MPs and peers voted in early 2018 to leave the historic building to allow the work to be carried out.'


Notre Dame fire sparks fears for UK parliament
 

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Surprised they had time to wonder about renovators, all being on their holibobs. But as noted earlier in the thread, getting repairs done does seem to be a prelude to a disastrous fire.

'The Palace of Westminster could face a fire as devastating as the one that has ravaged Notre Dame unless major improvements are made to the crumbling building in central London, MPs have warned.

'Politicians have acknowledged that action is needed to safeguard the Houses of Parliament but have spent years wrangling over the best way to proceed and baulked at the billions of pounds required to restore the building.

'The "restoration and renewal" programme is not expected to start in earnest until the mid-2020s after MPs and peers voted in early 2018 to leave the historic building to allow the work to be carried out.'

Notre Dame fire sparks fears for UK parliament
Obviously been reading my posts on here! :rolleyes:
 
Have we had the conspiracy theories yet ?

1 ) The Muslims : Evens
2 ) Pikey lead thieves : 4/1
3 ) Macron to divert attention away from domestic troubles ( There was due to be some important summit which could have toppled his government ) ; 1/4
4 ) Pegida : 6/1
5 ) The RAF ( they have history for this sort of thing (though they repeatedly missed Cologne ) 10 / 1
6 ) The Yellow Jackets to discredit Macron : 2 / 1
7 ) A consortium of the largest civil engineering companies in France : Evens
 
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Have we had the conspiracy theories yet ?

1 ) The Muslims : Evens
2 ) Macron to divert attention away from domestic troubles ( There was due to be some important summit which could have toppled his government ) ; 1/4
3 ) Pegida : 6/1
4 ) The RAF ( they have history for this sort of thing (though they repeatedly missed Cologne ) 10 / 1
5 ) The Yellow Jackets to discredit Macron : 2 / 1
6 ) A consortium of the largest civil engineering companies in France : Evens
You missed The Work Of The Devil, 666 / 1
 
Have we had the conspiracy theories yet ?

1 ) The Muslims : Evens
2 ) Macron to divert attention away from domestic troubles ( There was due to be some important summit which could have toppled his government ) ; 1/4
3 ) Pegida : 6/1
4 ) The RAF ( they have history for this sort of thing (though they repeatedly missed Cologne ) 10 / 1
5 ) The Yellow Jackets to discredit Macron : 2 / 1
6 ) A consortium of the largest civil engineering companies in France : Evens

Building accident caused by sloppy procedures and Gallic indifference to rules. 10/1 on.
 
Have we had the conspiracy theories yet ?

1 ) The Muslims : Evens
2 ) Macron to divert attention away from domestic troubles ( There was due to be some important summit which could have toppled his government ) ; 1/4
3 ) Pegida : 6/1
4 ) The RAF ( they have history for this sort of thing (though they repeatedly missed Cologne ) 10 / 1
5 ) The Yellow Jackets to discredit Macron : 2 / 1
6 ) A consortium of the largest civil engineering companies in France : Evens
The Labour Party will blame it on the Jews: Evens
 
The loss of a historic building is a sad thing. But no one has died.

However....this faux outpouring of grief, everyone allegedly having some amazing memory of the place, statements from the British PM and other politicians lamenting its loss, 24/7 news coverage of the fire, referring to it as though some sort of atrocity has taken place, the heart of a nation being ripped out etc. etc. Am I alone in not really giving a toss?
 
On a positive note, a cousin's son who recently qualified as a craftsman stonemason and was worried about finding work should be fine in that respect. Hang on Eric, where were you yesterday evening?
 
Some of the French correspondents and commentators are reporting this as their 9/11 event.

Let's examine that for a moment. So far (at time of posting), there have been zero casualties reported in this incident. An iconic building (an UN World Heritage listed site no less) has been burnt and may be in danger of demolition, if the damage is extensive enough. Shocking, yes. Terrible? Yes. But a tragedy? No. A disaster? Depends on your definition.

On the basis that the building is as recognisable as the twin towers were, then there may be a comparison.

But does it equate to a deliberate terrorist outrage resulting in the deaths of 2,996 people and 6,000+ more injured and the subsequent response that resulted in many more over an extended period of time, where the ripples are still being felt and the full repercussions yet to be realised? Catch yourself on.

So remember when one of our Gallic friends describes something as a catastrophe, disaster or tragedy, they have a relatively low threshold.
I agree. Calling it France's '9/11' is just plain silly, and quite insensitive as France and other European countries have been the victim of multiple fatality terrorist attacks as well as major transportation and other disasters.

Comparing it to St Paul's Cathedral during the London Blitz is not quite right either. The survival of St Paul's was a symbol of opposition to Nazism and the poisonous values ot represented.

This is a tragedy - but should be kept in perspective.
 

You mean this one.
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Thunderbirds Are Go

In my Liverpool Home, In my Liverpool Home
We speak with an accent exceedingly rare,
Meet under a statue exceedingly bare,
And if you want a Cathedral, we've got one to spare
In my Liverpool Home
 
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Beautiville in the Cherent ? There is a village out in the cuds just south of Cognac France, and at the time of the millennium when Blair had the plastic dome built, for their millennium the french inhabitants of Beautiiville set about restoring vital parts of their 8th century very small castle on the outskirts of the little village. It would take 20 years, so perhaps about completed now? They employed about four stone masons and some working apprentices, it was allowed for visitors to buy coffee and watch the work going on. It was mostly 'Hand chisel work' A big notice on site said: Restoration contributions: The State, 10 million Euros. The Department, 2 million Euros. The people of the Commune 2 Euros annually until completion. My figures may be wrong but it was something similar. It was in fact a job creation scheme but with an outcome that most agreed with. It is my ambition to go back and see it.
 
I agree. Calling it France's '9/11' is just plain silly, and quite insensitive as France and other European countries have been the victim of multiple fatality terrorist attacks as well as major transportation and other disasters.

Comparing it to St Paul's Cathedral during the London Blitz is not quite right either. The survival of St Paul's was a symbol of opposition to Nazism and the poisonous values ot represented.

This is a tragedy - but should be kept in perspective.
Agree with all you've said there, but wonder if the French comments about a 9/11 moment aren't being mis-construe;, ie, that this is a totemic event and potential focal point for some French national unity.
 

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