Not Constitutional Loyal

The Bundeswehr are having a mass investigation into right wing views in the military, with the phrase "Lacking loyalty to the constitution." much in use.

I wonder what constitutes a "Lack of loyalty" or Right Wing views?

This witch hunt seems to me to have echoes of something from the days of the Nazi Party or the Stasi, where your thoughts have to match only those authorised.

Right wing hunt
 
The Bundeswehr are having a mass investigation into right wing views in the military, with the phrase "Lacking loyalty to the constitution." much in use.

I wonder what constitutes a "Lack of loyalty" or Right Wing views?

This witch hunt seems to me to have echoes of something from the days of the Nazi Party or the Stasi, where your thoughts have to match only those authorised.

Right wing hunt
This is sort of similar to all the other things going on in the Bundeswehr over the last 3-5 years (and more.
 
This is sort of similar to all the other things going on in the Bundeswehr over the last 3-5 years (and more.
Agreed, I remember back in the 70's there were a load of Bundeswehr Tankie Officers got booted for singing the Panzerlied at a dinner night.
 
Agreed, I remember back in the 70's there were a load of Bundeswehr Tankie Officers got booted for singing the Panzerlied at a dinner night.
That's my current ringtone (available from the Zedge app).

If anyone asks, I tell them it's the B side of Ode to joy.
 
There is no real Left Wing and Right Wing, they are just there so the political pig can fly. However there are or were, two extremes of Socialism, the USSR type which proclaimed itself to be International Socialism, and Socialism combined with racism and virulent nationalism, or Nazism. Ironically Stalin came up with the phrase, "Socialism in one country," after he'd more or less beheaded, gutted and hamstrung the Red Army. He didn't have much choice, despite all his promises and purges, the country was still primitive and weak.

Hitler on the other hand didn't use that phrase. Instead he came out with, "I have no further territorial demands to make." Except for Poland of course, the eastern half of which Stalin didn't hesitate to seize as a buffer region between his militarily backward USSR and Germany's militarized, racist, and nationalist brand of Socialism. Of course, as he'd laid out in Mein Kampf, Hitler eventually invaded Russia for "Lebensraum," or living space.

On this stage, the two Socialist ideologies battled it out. Savagery and bestial conduct were only to be expected from both sides, because as the old saying has it, "Who is more critical of you than your closest relatives?" Yes, there are still Socialist parties worldwide, but comparing most of them to these two earlier behemoths is like comparing a gang of pickpockets to a gang of armed robbers.
 
One period cartoon predicts it all:



They are both Socialists, which is presumably why their legs are tied together as if for a three legged race, but each one has his pistol in hand, "Just in case, Comrade."
 

Maple

LE
The Bundeswehr are having a mass investigation into right wing views in the military, with the phrase "Lacking loyalty to the constitution." much in use.

I wonder what constitutes a "Lack of loyalty" or Right Wing views?

This witch hunt seems to me to have echoes of something from the days of the Nazi Party or the Stasi, where your thoughts have to match only those authorised.

Right wing hunt
Your choice of words shows where your heart lies, the Bunderswehr has always had a problem with XRW infiltration going back to the 1950s, Ironically the NVA had a similar issue. Needs to be monitored and stamped-out. I understand some elements of the US Army are also struggling with this.
 

Maple

LE
They are both Socialists,
Not true,


The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality.
 
In International Socialism, ie Soviet Communism, there is no such concept as private property except for small personal items; The People own everything collectively. However, as that Cheeky Chappie of the USSR, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn once pointed out, "Just you try riding on one of The People's Trains without a ticket and see what happens!" The State owned all the means of production so the State decided what was to be manufactured and the quality of the finished products. The State also decided where most individuals would work, taking little account of the individual's skills and intelligence. Inevitably this meant shortages and black markets.

Under Nazism, the individual was, as I understand it, allowed to own property, BUT, all property was ultimately at the disposal of the State, as was every individual. If you owned a factory, fine, but, if the State wanted X amount of widgets a week of Grade A quality at price Y, even if supplying them at that price would bankrupt you, you'd better get cracking, unless you wanted a free holiday in one of the State's nice little camps no one ever talked about. If you owned a house the State reckoned would hold a platoon of Infantry, they might well be billeted there, even if you and yours had to move out at a moment's notice, bag and baggage.

The Germans didn't really put their country on a war footing until after February 1943 when Goebbels made his famous "No more Mr Nice Guy" speech at the Berlin Sportpalast. Although that was made to a picked audience it was broadcast to the entire nation and it had the desired effect. Luxuries were forbidden, everything was from then on to be made solely for the war effort. The end of that speech is something like, "Now people, rise up, and LET THE STORM BREAK LOOSE!" He'd used that line before, and it didn't let him down this time, either. Now the State would decide what was to be made and the quality of the finished products. Inevitably this meant shortages and black markets. H'mm where have we heard THAT before?
 
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The Bundeswehr are having a mass investigation into right wing views in the military, with the phrase "Lacking loyalty to the constitution." much in use.

I wonder what constitutes a "Lack of loyalty" or Right Wing views?

This witch hunt seems to me to have echoes of something from the days of the Nazi Party or the Stasi, where your thoughts have to match only those authorised.

Right wing hunt
Ironic really with Merkel and her Communist roots, her having started out as the FDJ Secretary for Agitation and Propaganda at the Academy of Sciences in East Berlin (The FDJ being the East German Communist equivalent of the Hitler Youth )

Do they have many investigations into XLW views, like loyalty to a totalitarian ideology like Soviet Russia or the EU?
 
Not true,

Business Under Nazis | Ralph Reiland along with:

 

Maple

LE
Oh dear, this b#ll#cks again.
Google, 'the political compass', for an intelligent answer.
You can then do the 40 odd questions to find out where you lay.
NO need, personally I despise the XLW and the XRW with equal venom, and you can throw in Rabid Nationalists too.

Look if someone's into all that rubbish it's up to them, but let's not pretend its mainstream, popular or acceptable
 

Maple

LE
Ironic really with Merkel and her Communist roots, her having started out as the FDJ Secretary for Agitation and Propaganda at the Academy of Sciences in East Berlin (The FDJ being the East German Communist equivalent of the Hitler Youth )

Do they have many investigations into XLW views, like loyalty to a totalitarian ideology like Soviet Russia or the EU?
You see this isn't about the left, communisim, any 'whataboutism' Whataboutism - Wikipedia or any other excuse, XLW and nationalists are just as reprehensible as those who get a stiffy over blond haired HJ types in tight shorts and are over-keen of male bonding - an XRW problem has been identified in the German army, it's been investigated and is being dealt with - what's the problem?
 
Perhaps the investigation is a consequence of this speech by Angela ?

In November 2019 Angela Merkel said that freedom of expression has its limits


There is a video on YouTube but no translation
 

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