Not all Navys are full of white flag waving woopsies!

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  1. Schaden

    Schaden LE Book Reviewer

    The Australians, though, to quote one military source, "were having none of it".

    The BBC has been told the Australians re-boarded the vessel they had just searched, aimed their machine guns at the approaching Iranians and warned them to back off, using what was said to be "highly colourful language".

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6228342.stm

    I can see this not going down well in certain quarters....
     
  2. This happened before our matelots got mugged for their Ipods. I wanna know:

    1. Did the Iranians beef up their tactics after they failed with the Ozzies (I imagine they did - wouldn't you?).

    2. Did news of the Ozzies' experience reach the ears of the Brit CoC? If not, why not? And if so - WTF happened???? 8)
     
  3. More embarrasing news for Jack, good old beeb.
     
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    Aw, someone beat me to it!

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/aussies-repel-iranian-gunboat/2007/06/22/1182019309654.html

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  5. Nicely done chaps 8)
     
  6. It doesn't matter how many lessons have been learned from the incident but until the ROE for the region are changed to reflect the threat that exists there, there is sod all that we can do...
     
  7. If our Aussei ex pats learn this I'm deed.
    The flack I took over the mataloes surrender was bad enough most reconded that the young lad was most in danger of rape and not the one half of the Fat Slags.
    john
     
  8. ROE!! If I thought some beardy weirdy was going to kidnap me and call me names in Tehran for a few weeks, I would have used similarly pointy guns and foul language.

    But I suppose……if you believe the conspiracy theorists……!!!?
     
  9. quote "The words that somebody said to me was that they used pretty colourful language but I'm sure that alone didn't make the Iranians back off".

    That and a barrage of empty VB bottles.
     
  10. VB?? I light beer more likely - The Navy is the Navy after all.
     
  11. QUOTE - "The Australians escaped capture by climbing back on board the ship they'd just searched. I'm told that they set up their weapons.

    "No shots were exchanged but the Iranians backed off and the Australians were able to get helicoptered off that ship and they didn't get captured."

    He did not mention the name of the Australian ship.

    Australians ships rotate through duties in the Gulf, chiefly searching ships.

    "What I'm hearing is that it was a pretty robust attitude by the Australians," Gardner said.

    "The words that somebody said to me was that they used pretty colourful language but I'm sure that alone didn't make the Iranians back off.

    "They reacted, I'm told, incredibly quickly, whereas the Brits were caught at their most vulnerable moment climbing down off the ship (and) getting into their boats."

    Gardner said the British should not be embarrassed about the incident, but the issue was whether military intelligence had been passed on.

    "The point of this story is not that the Aussies were fantastically brave and the Brits were a bunch of cowards, although I'm sure some people will interpret (it that way)," he said.

    "Lessons should have been drawn from what happened to the Australian crew."
     
  12. AUSTRALIAN sailors did repel Iranian gunboats in the Persian Gulf, but it was 2-½ years ago, and it wasn't at the expense of their British counterparts' reputation.

    THE Australian Defence Force moved today to clarify a report by a BBC reporter who said an Australian navy boarding crew in the Gulf repelled an Iranian gunboat which threatened them not long before 15 British sailors were captured in a similar incident, in March this year.

    A defence spokesman said today the incident involving the Australians, a four-hour confrontation after they boarded a grounded cargo ship, occurred in December 2004.

    Commodore Steve Gilmore said the incident began when Australian sailors were leaving the cargo vessel, which was near the Iraq-Iran maritime border.

    He said an Iranian Revolutionary Guard gunboat moved close by and its armed personnel made "very overt gestures".

    The boarding party commander ordered the Australians to reboard the cargo ship.

    "He got his boarding party back on to the ship and established a very credible and appropriate defensive position," Commodore Gilmore said in Canberra.

    The capture of a British crew by Iran in March developed into a major diplomatic incident before their release was negotiated.

    But BBC reporter Frank Gardner, a security specialist, reported overnight that the Australians managed to avoid a similar incident - pointing their guns at the Iranians and used "colourful language" before a gunboat withdrew.

    Escape

    "What I've been told by several sources, military sources, (is that) there was a similar encounter, in this case between the Royal Australian Navy and Iranian gunboats, some months ago, or at least some months prior to the seizing of the British sailors," Gardner said on ABC radio today.

    "The Australians escaped capture by climbing back on board the ship they'd just searched. I'm told that they set up their weapons.

    "No shots were exchanged but the Iranians backed off and the Australians were able to get helicoptered off that ship and they didn't get captured."

    Robust attitude

    He did not mention the name of the Australian ship.

    Australians ships rotate through duties in the Gulf, chiefly searching ships.

    "What I'm hearing is that it was a pretty robust attitude by the Australians," Gardner said.

    "The words that somebody said to me was that they used pretty colourful language but I'm sure that alone didn't make the Iranians back off.

    "They reacted, I'm told, incredibly quickly, whereas the Brits were caught at their most vulnerable moment climbing down off the ship (and) getting into their boats."

    Gardner said the British should be embarrassed about the incident, but the issue was whether military intelligence had been passed on.

    Cowards

    "The point of this story is not that the Aussies were fantastically brave and the Brits were a bunch of cowards, although I'm sure some people will interpret (it that way)," he said.

    "Lessons should have been drawn from what happened to the Australian crew."

    He said he had not been able to find out whether the information on the Australian incident had been passed on to the British.


    Latest on the subject from the Daily Telegraph in Sydney.
     
  13. Bloody Aussies! It's not bad enough you humiliate the English at Cricket? :twisted:
     
  14. Yeah but we're still World Champs at Head up Bum football.
    john