Norwegian Frigate Collision, Trident Juncture

#61
Also foreign fishing vessels where the watch was asleep...
As opposed to Fraserburgh fishing vessels where the watch is smacked up to buggery.

Edited to add: Noggin HSE rules are EU rules with "reasonable" replaced with "you will" and the wibble replaced with no doubt whatsoever of what th rules are. Company headshed is held criminally responsible.
 
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#65
Film here from after the incident with one tug (presumably that which accompanied the tanker) either pushing the frigate shorewards, or holding it in place there. The video is from two hours + after the collision. Also, video of part of the evacuation.


 
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#66
If the Norgie warship was at anchor, and they follow similar protocols as our RN then it would have been at nbcd state 3 condition yankee (various hatches closed etc)
 
#68
Seems the Norgies have retained Comical Ali for dealing with the media

Apparently, it hasn't sunk, its 'strongly listing'
 
#70
I will be amazed if that ship ever sails again...
From a layman's perspective, it seems doubtful. If there's any bad weather, how long will it take for the ship to sustain further damage? (in addition to the hull warping, etc which it must already be subject to; as well as strains caused by engines, etc hanging from a deck rather than being supported by it).
 
#71
I am not an RN Officer and so have no specialist knowledge whatsoever. But my common sense tells me that if a ship has to be deliberately beached to prevent her sinking altogether, then the damage that she has sustained is catastrophic. I doubt that she will be repairable (even if she were, the cost would, I suspect, be astronomical) and wil probably eventually be scrapped.
 
#72
Thoughts in no particular order, and claiming no specialist knowledge:

1) Initial photos of the ship at night, listing, with life rafts, suggest that the CO thought getting people off early on was a good idea - suggests that the damage was felt to be catastrophic very early on.

2) That being the case, it’s very good news that no one lost their life

3) Grounding the ship at least means she can be salvaged / broken up - better than being lost in deeper water.

4) The timelaose footage where the ship quickly goes from a relatively mild heel to a heavy list - failure of a bulkhead?

In any case, painful to see a ship in that state.
 
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#75
Is there any more news? The usual suspects on various forums seem very keen to blame the RNN.
 
#77
#78
But then you have to ask, if the tanker knew the frigate was “at risk of collision” and told them why did the tanker not take action to avoid.
There is a lot of conjecture at the moment. Some reports I saw said the frigate was at anchor. I suppose we’ll need to wait for the reports to find out what really happened.

Narrow channel, 100,000 tonne tanker can’t take avoiding action.
Frigate was underway and closed on the tankers track.
 

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