Northern Ireland - British Army Equipment...?

#1
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
 
#3
Pigs, LR, vauxhall chevettes (light blue or yellow), mini metro (brown or yellow), Bedford MK (painted brown or blue), pantechs (painted brown or blue)

All drivers of "civilianised" vehicles had to wear ties!

Post your request in the RLC forum and I'm sure you will get some info
 
#4
Ah, excellent. Cheers guys. I'll do so now. :D
 
#5
Hi Squiggers -

The vehicles in us were PIGS and Piglets. The Humber Pig was an up-armoured version of the 1 Ton APC.

The Piglet was the forerunner of the Snatch Landrover - it had armoured windscreens and lightweight armour plating - and a hatch for 2 bods to provide top cover.

RMP had Ford Cortinas.
 

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#6
Squiggers said:
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
In 1976 15/19H (Omagh) used Ferret, Saracen APC and Land Rovers.

Air Squadron had Scout and Sioux helicopters.
 
#7
AlienFTM said:
Squiggers said:
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
In 1976 15/19H (Omagh) used Ferret, Saracen APC and Land Rovers.

Air Squadron had Scout and Sioux helicopters.
Hmm, any idea what exact model of the Ferret was used?
 
#8
Ford Transits that changed colour almost weekly! Montegos, Sierras. MK/MJ with makralon 'houses' on the back
 
#10
Humber 1 Ton Armoured (PIG).
Land Rover Makralon (protection from low velocity [sic]
Armoured Landrover (Piglet). Limited number. Used by Mike callsigns in W Belfast.
West Belfast Bn had a Saracen ambulance.

There were a range of civilianised cars
standard Type B, C and D vehicles (Cavalier, Chevette and Metro) painted other than Black
then a number of vehicles purchased in UK that were controlled by the Brigade Ordnance Officer (Me!) which were moved regularly between units.

W did have a civilianised skip wagon in West Belfast. This was a local purchase. Though civil it was to be treated as a 'Green' vehicle and had to be escorted.

Covert vehicles were part of FRU, 14 Int and Sy
 
#11
Pocoyo said:
Pigs, LR, vauxhall chevettes (light blue or yellow), mini metro (brown or yellow), Bedford MK (painted brown or blue), pantechs (painted brown or blue)

All drivers of "civilianised" vehicles had to wear ties!

Post your request in the RLC forum and I'm sure you will get some info
I never had to wear a tie! 85/87 and the two hooligans from our Regt (You are ex AAC?) who did the covet/admin drivers job in Aldergrove before me never did. Mind you I didn't do that job full time.

There was a Transit and a Cortina, both I remember well, the others less so. But I seem to remeber some one getting a Civilianised wagon (ford cargo??) stuck in a tunnel.
 
#12
Mate
Just to go to the start of the shenanigans,
26sqn operated a fleet of Austin 1100s Austin 1800s with makrolon,Ford zephyr and Ford zodiacs and the general runabouts were hillman huskies,I am over 21 :D
 
#13
AlienFTM said:
Squiggers said:
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
In 1976 15/19H (Omagh) used Ferret, Saracen APC and Land Rovers.

Air Squadron had Scout and Sioux helicopters.

I rather think Gazelle,instead of Sioux. Watching to much MASH? :wink:
 
#14
RoofRat said:
AlienFTM said:
Squiggers said:
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
In 1976 15/19H (Omagh) used Ferret, Saracen APC and Land Rovers.

Air Squadron had Scout and Sioux helicopters.

I rather think Gazelle,instead of Sioux. Watching to much MASH? :wink:
Sioux and wessex were both airframes that had time in the province although i suspect that Sioux where being phased out in the early 80's sure i am sure i seen them pop into 'Palace' onnce or twice when i was there.

tony hadley (not sure if i have spelt his name right ) wrote a series of books on the army in NI cant remember the titles but im sure someone will, they would prove invaluable for your research 'Squiggers' even if they predate the period somewhat
 
#15
halo_jones said:
RoofRat said:
AlienFTM said:
Squiggers said:
I've been doing some research on the Troubles, mainly round the 80-85 period of it, mainly as it interests me quite a lot.

However, I'm stuck in regards to ground vehicles that were used - there's bugger all info on what was used, or if there is, it's incredibly sketchy, or there's very little photographic pictures of them existing - online, at any rate.

Aerial vehicles, such as the Gazelle, and the Lynx, I've got quite a bit of information on, so it's not such an issue.

Anybody able to help me here, please?
:D
In 1976 15/19H (Omagh) used Ferret, Saracen APC and Land Rovers.

Air Squadron had Scout and Sioux helicopters.

I rather think Gazelle,instead of Sioux. Watching to much MASH? :wink:
Sioux and wessex were both airframes that had time in the province although i suspect that Sioux where being phased out in the early 80's sure i am sure i seen them pop into 'Palace' onnce or twice when i was there.

tony hadley (not sure if i have spelt his name right ) wrote a series of books on the army in NI cant remember the titles but im sure someone will, they would prove invaluable for your research 'Squiggers' even if they predate the period somewhat
I think you will find the Sioux was phased out in early 76,in favour of the Gazelle. First Lynx did a tour of the province in 78.
 
#16
I don't recall seeing Sioux after 74/75. Up until that time they were regularly over W. Belfast.

Westland Scout was still around as late as 76 but Gazelle was starting to be common by then.

Land Rovers in W. Belfast were always LWB and completely stripped-down. I never saw a Makralon "armoured" Landie until an Armagh tour in 76. Then they were all lightweight versions (we soon removed both front doors and once we did, the yobs stopped chucking rocks at us).
 
#17
jinxy said:
Pocoyo said:
Pigs, LR, vauxhall chevettes (light blue or yellow), mini metro (brown or yellow), Bedford MK (painted brown or blue), pantechs (painted brown or blue)

All drivers of "civilianised" vehicles had to wear ties!

Post your request in the RLC forum and I'm sure you will get some info
I never had to wear a tie! 85/87 and the two hooligans from our Regt (You are ex AAC?) who did the covet/admin drivers job in Aldergrove before me never did. Mind you I didn't do that job full time.

There was a Transit and a Cortina, both I remember well, the others less so. But I seem to remeber some one getting a Civilianised wagon (ford cargo??) stuck in a tunnel.
Yep I'm ex AAC but back in ye olde early 80's I was but a trog in 26 Sqn RCT and you are going to have to take my word for it that the idiots in charge made us wear jacket and tie when driving blue Bedfords! In fairness the practise ceased in 85 ish, not before time!

In case those looking in don't know what I'm getting at by emphasising the colour of the vehicles, you really had to be there..I'm talking tarpaulins painted gloss blue, along with every other surface of the vehicle, talk about making life very easy for Kevinb and his mates.
 
#18
Apart from the normal stuff, I'm sure we had on call on a massive Massey Ferguson tractor! 8O I never actually saw it but it was rumoured to be the mother of all tractors with an uparmoured bucket and wheels as big as elephants! 8O We were told at least 20 fully armed blokes could ride in the bucket as a sort of emergency APC. Funny enough, I aint seen one in the Airfix range yet! :roll: :lol:
 
#19
Cpl_Clot said:
I don't recall seeing Sioux after 74/75. Up until that time they were regularly over W. Belfast.

Westland Scout was still around as late as 76 but Gazelle was starting to be common by then.

Land Rovers in W. Belfast were always LWB and completely stripped-down. I never saw a Makralon "armoured" Landie until an Armagh tour in 76. Then they were all lightweight versions (we soon removed both front doors and once we did, the yobs stopped chucking rocks at us).
Remember Sioux in Derry in 76 as well as hanging out of a Scout with legs too short to reach the skids. :(

We also had short LR in WB, Andytown and have a number of photos of them. One in particular had a push to start. I had my first RTA in it. We had a Commer van in Omagh in 82-85 as well as Cavillers. I was told that the army had the only ones in the province that did not have head rests or sunroof as they were standard in all models sold to the public.
 
#20
Our 'covert' van at belleek was a small size furniture van, which could fit the whole troop!!! Saw a lot of sioux helis in 76 plus wessex, think in 78 we used gazelles.

Had stripped Lannys and makralons in 79, before that it was just stripped lannys.

Pigs at the maze 76 driven by us, saracens in 79 had RCT drivers iirc.
 

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