North Korea warns of possible war with South Korea

#1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_tension;_ylt=A0wNcxC.rYZJrp4A9hBw24cA

North Korea warned Sunday that South Korea's confrontational policies may trigger a war on the divided peninsula, a message coming two days after the communist country vowed to abandon all peace agreements with its southern neighbor.

Relations between the two Koreas have been strained since conservative President Lee Myung-bak took office nearly a year ago in Seoul, pledging to take a harder line on the North. Tension heightened Friday when the North said it was ditching a nonaggression pact and all other peace accords with South Korea.

The tension may lead to "an unavoidable military conflict and a war," North Korea's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said in a commentary carried Sunday by the country's official Korean Central News Agency.
If the war would happen then no doubt HM armed forces would be send to save Korean democracy from communist agression.
 
#2
Ahhh, we wouldn't even need to bother, they're equipped with old russian rubbish kit & backward russian doctrine left over from the 60s, don't have sufficient stockpiles of fuel and have been starving for 20 years, the spams & South Koreans would tear them a new ringer, even if they use an A-bomb all that will accomplish is the destruction of north korea...
 
#6
KGB_resident said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_tension;_ylt=A0wNcxC.rYZJrp4A9hBw24cA

North Korea warned Sunday that South Korea's confrontational policies may trigger a war on the divided peninsula, a message coming two days after the communist country vowed to abandon all peace agreements with its southern neighbor.

Relations between the two Koreas have been strained since conservative President Lee Myung-bak took office nearly a year ago in Seoul, pledging to take a harder line on the North. Tension heightened Friday when the North said it was ditching a nonaggression pact and all other peace accords with South Korea.

The tension may lead to "an unavoidable military conflict and a war," North Korea's main Rodong Sinmun newspaper said in a commentary carried Sunday by the country's official Korean Central News Agency.
If the war would happen then no doubt HM armed forces would be send to save Korean democracy from communist agression.
My bold - b0llocks never happen in month of sundays.
 
#8
KGB_resident said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_tension;_ylt=A0wNcxC.rYZJrp4A9hBw24cA

North Korea warned Sunday etc
If the war would happen then no doubt HM armed forces would be send to save Korean democracy from communist agression.
How do you work that one out? The US presence will be down to 28,000 in 2009 so there's zero chance of our lot being required. More likely that the Chinese would just occupy the North if they kicked off.
 
#9
Looking at the advert for "Korean Cupid" on the bottom of the page, I don't think tagging along with the Spams and South Koreans as they trundle up to PyongYang is such a bad thing! :twisted:
 
#10
psychobabble said:
Think this is more about chest beating to get the attention of the new POTUS personally.
What he said. There's zero chance the NK regime will kick off as the Chinese would squash them flat and, once in place, most likely stick around.

In fact, the only people who should be feeling nervous are the Japanese - it's more likely NK would fire off every nuke they had at Japan then immediately surrender to the South. They really don't like each other, and the rumblings that Japan will be taking a more outward focus must be being watched very closely.
 
#12
exile1 said:
If it's not in the interest of Big Brother to the North of them then it's not going to happen.
Modern wars are sometimes very strange. A weak side attacks a seperior miliraty force... it looks as an absurd. But llok at Georgia, Hezbollah, Hamas...

China is not controlling N.Korean regime. Moreover, its influence is quite bounded. Also, taking into account mentality of N.Korean leadership no one can exclude a war with the South.

How it could happen? Suppose that random shooting would be frequent along the truce line. It is quite possible. Future escalation could lead to unpredictable consequences.

Note that N.Korea has a lot of missiles. Even without nuclear warheads they are dangerous enough. What would happen if American military object would be hit? (in S.Korea or Japan). Unlikely our American friends could use carpet bombings and ground invasion is unprobable.
 
#13
KGB_resident said:
exile1 said:
If it's not in the interest of Big Brother to the North of them then it's not going to happen.
Modern wars are sometimes very strange. A weak side attacks a seperior miliraty force... it looks as an absurd. But llok at Georgia, Hezbollah, Hamas...

China is not controlling N.Korean regime. Moreover, its influence is quite bounded. Also, taking into account mentality of N.Korean leadership no one can exclude a war with the South.

How it could happen? Suppose that random shooting would be frequent along the truce line. It is quite possible. Future escalation could lead to unpredictable consequences.

Note that N.Korea has a lot of missiles. Even without nuclear warheads they are dangerous enough. What would happen if American military object would be hit? (in S.Korea or Japan). Unlikely our American friends could use carpet bombings and ground invasion is unprobable.
Then a bucket of sunshine would be poured on Pyongyang...the Americans wouldn't use carpet bombing, because virtually all american jets can carry guided weapons, rendering it unecessary...the South koreans have more men in uniform (including reservists), better equipment and the backing of American airpower, even without substantial US ground reinforcements I'd think they could manage a ground invasion...
 
#14
Simplistic view. N. Korea short of food etc. Time to make the usual (annual) threats to the west. Last year it was an alleged nuclear bomb test. Seems to be a way of getting aid without the indignity of begging.
 
#15
Bradstyley said:
KGB_resident said:
exile1 said:
If it's not in the interest of Big Brother to the North of them then it's not going to happen.
Modern wars are sometimes very strange. A weak side attacks a seperior miliraty force... it looks as an absurd. But llok at Georgia, Hezbollah, Hamas...

China is not controlling N.Korean regime. Moreover, its influence is quite bounded. Also, taking into account mentality of N.Korean leadership no one can exclude a war with the South.

How it could happen? Suppose that random shooting would be frequent along the truce line. It is quite possible. Future escalation could lead to unpredictable consequences.

Note that N.Korea has a lot of missiles. Even without nuclear warheads they are dangerous enough. What would happen if American military object would be hit? (in S.Korea or Japan). Unlikely our American friends could use carpet bombings and ground invasion is unprobable.
Then a bucket of sunshine would be poured on Pyongyang...the Americans wouldn't use carpet bombing, because virtually all american jets can carry guided weapons, rendering it unecessary...the South koreans have more men in uniform (including reservists), better equipment and the backing of American airpower, even without substantial US ground reinforcements I'd think they could manage a ground invasion...
American strikes against military objects would be mainly ineffective (Let's recall Yugoslavia). But destruction of civil infrastucture and inevitable thousands of killed civilians (including children) would be widely shown on TV.

Lets compare military might:
1. N.Korea vs USA
2. Hamas vs Israel

Hamas is much more weaker in comparison with Israel than N.Korea in comparison with the USA.
 
#16
One_of_the_strange said:
What he said. There's zero chance the NK regime will kick off as the Chinese would squash them flat and, once in place, most likely stick around.

In fact, the only people who should be feeling nervous are the Japanese - it's more likely NK would fire off every nuke they had at Japan then immediately surrender to the South. They really don't like each other, and the rumblings that Japan will be taking a more outward focus must be being watched very closely.
Japan's recently become China's second biggest export market. If the DPRK do anything to jeopardise Sino-Japanese trade, they'll find themselves part of Shenyang Military Region before the red telephone's finished ringing.
 
#17
KGB_resident said:
Bradstyley said:
KGB_resident said:
exile1 said:
If it's not in the interest of Big Brother to the North of them then it's not going to happen.
Modern wars are sometimes very strange. A weak side attacks a seperior miliraty force... it looks as an absurd. But llok at Georgia, Hezbollah, Hamas...

China is not controlling N.Korean regime. Moreover, its influence is quite bounded. Also, taking into account mentality of N.Korean leadership no one can exclude a war with the South.

How it could happen? Suppose that random shooting would be frequent along the truce line. It is quite possible. Future escalation could lead to unpredictable consequences.

Note that N.Korea has a lot of missiles. Even without nuclear warheads they are dangerous enough. What would happen if American military object would be hit? (in S.Korea or Japan). Unlikely our American friends could use carpet bombings and ground invasion is unprobable.
Then a bucket of sunshine would be poured on Pyongyang...the Americans wouldn't use carpet bombing, because virtually all american jets can carry guided weapons, rendering it unecessary...the South koreans have more men in uniform (including reservists), better equipment and the backing of American airpower, even without substantial US ground reinforcements I'd think they could manage a ground invasion...
American strikes against military objects would be mainly ineffective (Let's recall Yugoslavia). But destruction of civil infrastucture and inevitable thousands of killed civilians (including children) would be widely shown on TV.

Lets compare military might:
1. N.Korea vs USA
2. Hamas vs Israel

Hamas is much more weaker in comparison with Israel than N.Korea in comparison with the USA.
Well, for one thing whatever you think of the two US ops in Yugoslavia, the political objectives were achived in both cases.

More importantly though, N.Korea functions as a rigid, industrial, centrally controlled state. It's the most perfect target in the world for the type of air campagin the US air force is set up for.
 
#18
carlbcfc said:
I heard a story about a fake village on the border once to lure soldiers in. True or shite?
IIRC, there was (still is?) a 'fake village'. Its role was to make life in NK look good, maybe encourage some defections.
 
#19
parapauk said:
Well, for one thing whatever you think of the two US ops in Yugoslavia, the political objectives were achived in both cases.
Of course, I agree with it.

parapauk said:
More importantly though, N.Korea functions as a rigid, industrial, centrally controlled state. It's the most perfect target in the world for the type of air campagin the US air force is set up for.
N.Korea is not as defenselees as one may think.
Though, there are only suppositions - how the war could start and go, no more.
 
#20
DemsMaShoes said:
Simplistic view. N. Korea short of food etc. Time to make the usual (annual) threats to the west. Last year it was an alleged nuclear bomb test. Seems to be a way of getting aid without the indignity of begging.
Alleged the test may be, none the less at the end of 2008 the American Top Brass in Pentagon published a report that listed NK as a nuclear armed state with a missile delivery system capable of reaching Japan.

Even though Taepodong-2 tests have gone just like most other nations early rocket tests (i.e. up in smoke) the threat is credible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2

A three stage Taepodong-2 could even in theory reach portions of the US mainland, and although they are unlikely to have advanced to such a stage, if left unchecked such a system becomes seemingly inevitable.

Hence the reason why SK & Japan backed by the US & brokered by China have for eons been pilling relief cash into NK, to try and get them away from such an adversarial path.

This recent round of reversals is a result of SK taking a harder line on NK, appointing some tough actors into the parliment. In the end I guess they and everyone else are just getting a little sick of the feeding a nation that just won't engage in it's half of international relationships.
 

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