non registered bfg tax free car and want to get rid

#1
i bought a tax free car 6 months while posted in germany and failed to register it (b f g ) it im getting out the army in april 2013, what is the best thing to do with the car? can i just register it in the uk and pay the tax on it? can i sell it hassle free? or do i have to bfg it pay the tax on it and leave it in germany for a year i have heard alot of things but not sure whats the best thing to do.
 
#2
If I were you I'd speak to the BFG office, and/or maybe the tax people down in JHQ or whereever they are. I know there is a tax and revenue officer in Herford too.

You need to sort this out, because you technically could get stung for tax in Germany AND in UK.

You can't just leave it. You have not BFG'd it within the time frame allocated, nor (I would guess) have you applied for the 414 form (or whatever it is the blue one from the Taxman).

Don't mention the getting out bit, you could just get away with a 3 year ban on BFG products :D
 
#3
72 4100 mate, if you have a good reason ie on tour, compassionate leave, medical reasons etc you may be able to get a ban but no doubt customs will want you to pay the tax unless you can sell it on to an entitled person.

What is the car?
 
#4
If I were you I'd speak to the BFG office, and/or maybe the tax people down in JHQ or whereever they are. I know there is a tax and revenue officer in Herford too.
Good luck with that.BFG C & I are the most unhelpful, unprofessional bunch of idiots I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with. Impossibly hard to get hold of by phone and when I did finally manage to get one of them (by using an unpublicised number) spoke to me as if I had committed some sort of offence. I had only wanted some advice. Bunch of self-important pricks, one and all.....
 
#6
i spoke to them in the bfg office after i had the car for about 2 months and they said i would have to pay the tax on the car which is 2300 ish... and the german goverment would take the keys off me until i pay it and i would not be able to pay in installments i would have to pay them in a oner, i didnt have the cash so i just keep it outside my house where i can keep an eye on it, i dont really want to deal with the germans if i can help it i would rather drive the car to the uk leave it in my garage and get in touch with the dvla, do u think thats an option or just wishfull thinking?
 
#7
The problem with driving it to the UK is that you will be stopped by Customs. That can be a lot of fun, not. If you don't pay the tax / VAT whatever on the car at the point of entry into the UK they will impound it.
 
#9
My dealings with BFG were slightly different but my advice would be; Do not speak with BFG – they will insist you BFG your car and you will be liable for German Tax. I know they tried to force me to coff up and threatened me with a 2 year BFG ban. The local customs bloke in BFPO hounded me for the best part of 12 months.

As you serve aboard you are entitled to export a car. In my experience the UK were only interested that on my return to UK I registered the car, paid for 6 months road fund licence. I basically forgot my BFG 414 so was offered a UK 414 at the Maidstone registration office. It’s only BFG who insist that you use a BFG 414.

The BFG lot in JHQ who are headed up by a rtd Lt Col were extremely unhelpful and if I hadn’t stood by ground the Germans would have been laughing all the way to the bank.

This was 3 -4 years ago so things might have changed!

Speak with the Maidstone office they were very helpful and only interested that I registered the car and paid for 6 months road fund licence.
 
#10
Mate of mine freighted his motor back - about £600 - worth looking into - I'll grab the details when he comes in off the lash if you like.
 
#11
Mate of mine freighted his motor back - about £600 - worth looking into - I'll grab the details when he comes in off the lash if you like.
Which almost ensures being caught!!!
 
#12
My dealings with BFG were slightly different but my advice would be; Do not speak with BFG – they will insist you BFG your car and you will be liable for German Tax. I know they tried to force me to coff up and threatened me with a 2 year BFG ban. The local customs bloke in BFPO hounded me for the best part of 12 months.

As you serve aboard you are entitled to export a car. In my experience the UK were only interested that on my return to UK I registered the car, paid for 6 months road fund licence. I basically forgot my BFG 414 so was offered a UK 414 at the Maidstone registration office. It’s only BFG who insist that you use a BFG 414.

The BFG lot in JHQ who are headed up by a rtd Lt Col were extremely unhelpful and if I hadn’t stood by ground the Germans would have been laughing all the way to the bank.

This was 3 -4 years ago so things might have changed!

Speak with the Maidstone office they were very helpful and only interested that I registered the car and paid for 6 months road fund licence.
Yes and their are clear guidelines on how to do it, and within what timescales. Thousands of others have managed to do it, all this cretin has managed to do is, yet again, bring this up on the radar and the Germans/UK will maybe change the rules again.

It isn't that long ago that every adult/driver in the family could buy a car. Hence 6 monthly swaps. Thanks to muppets like the OP, you may find that the one car per year (or thereabouts) is also chopped. Maybe to one per tour. The spirit of the SOFA was that you could buy a German car on arrival, and a British car on departure.
 
#13
Yes and their are clear guidelines on how to do it, and within what timescales. Thousands of others have managed to do it, all this cretin has managed to do is, yet again, bring this up on the radar and the Germans/UK will maybe change the rules again.

It isn't that long ago that every adult/driver in the family could buy a car. Hence 6 monthly swaps. Thanks to muppets like the OP, you may find that the one car per year (or thereabouts) is also chopped. Maybe to one per tour. The spirit of the SOFA was that you could buy a German car on arrival, and a British car on departure.
**** me, it's not rocket science. Twats like the OP amaze me. I hope you get whacked by C&I, maybe teach you that admin is not a small Nepalese village after all. Thank feck he's leaving..........CDT was it?
 
#16
think il just bfg it pay the tax take the ban and deregister it, but thanks for the advice sounds like the advice from someone on the lower pay band.
 
#18
Owen, you bought a new car and couldn't be arrsed to get it registered within the timeframe taht BFG C&I and BFG VLO stipulate...

I wouldn't mind, but the forms are all available on the internet.... not to mention in the BFG office on every station.

bfgnet - The Official Internet Site of the British Forces in Germany

You simply phone the dealer and ask for informtion required in BFG Form 60 and 20. And then send them off to the relevant addresses (waiting for the BFG 80 to come back before sending hte 20). You could actually have had the BFG form 80 in your possession prior to picking up your new car, ready to drive back in to BFG and stick the BFG 20 in the post with the 80 and the paperwork from the sale/initial uk registration.

Done and dusted...

And you say other posters are 'lower pay band'.

That atcually makes it worse, you should (technically) be a bit more intelligent then... so you must be a cnut who thought the rules didn't apply to them because you'd bought a snazzy car.
 
#19
Two options:

1. BFG it and pay tax, and drive home legaly.

2. Don't BFG it but still pay tax, drive home ilegal.

either way they will get you in the end however, the first reply is wrong, in that if you have to pay tax you will only pay once not Ger and UK.

The other threads are quite correct in that if you have had a problem then ask for help. Unfortunately, due to circumstances peoples views will be distorted. however, in the end of the day, you must decide what you want to do.

Good luck whatever, you decide.
 

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