Non-battle scars: US military rape victim shares her pain

#2
Strange? 1 in 3 raped and add that to the 75 % who don't don't report it? Do the sceptics have time to do anthing else!

Bloody good time management though
 
#3
Commie,

And your point is?

Are you suggesting that you are surprised that such crimes happen?

Are you surprised that such crimes are aired in public?

Are you surprised that a criminal investigation will be held?

Are you surprised that the US Army is able to deal with these issues without calling on the KGB?
 
#5
Tiger-Monkey2 said:
Commie,

And your point is?
It must be stopped.

Tiger-Monkey2 said:
Are you suggesting that you are surprised that such crimes happen?
No but the scale is huge

Tiger-Monkey2 said:
Are you surprised that such crimes are aired in public?
Note, aired by Russia Today TV. As for main American TV channels then I don't know.

Tiger-Monkey2 said:
Are you surprised that a criminal investigation will be held?
In some cases it possible but only few will be really punished as previous years show.

Tiger-Monkey2 said:
Are you surprised that the US Army is able to deal with these issues without calling on the KGB?
As I see the US Army is unable to deal with these issues.
 
#6
According to a new study by the US Department of Defense, one in three women in the military is raped. Veterans for Peace add to those statistics, claiming 75% of raped women in the military fail to report it.

Sandra Lee has decided to break the silence five years after she was assaulted by a fellow soldier. She had been rebuilding schools in the middle of a war zone in Iraq when the incident occurred.
 
#7
Haven't these all proved to be b0110cks?

Last time they reckoned that birds were dieing of heat stroke, because they were to tired to get an escort to the bog at night, as they were all dead tired instead of rigging up a crude pissoir in the tent they just didn't drink anything, but the blokes were able to maraud around all night raping at will... apparently.

And, of course, the birds armed themselves with knives.... despite also being armed with firearms and bayonets.....
 

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#8
Nothing like this goes on in the Russian army they are too busy organising the institutional rape of the latest batch of conscripts.
 
#9
JINGO said:
Nothing like this goes on in the Russian army they are too busy organising the institutional rape of the latest batch of conscripts.
Rapes in the ranks of Russian army is something exceptional.

And situation in the British army I believe is quite different. Are rapes a problem in HM armed forced? I believe that no. Let's look at NATO countries - France, Germany, Italy, Spain... There is no such problem.

So why rapes is a problem in the US army? What is the cause?
 
#11
KGB_resident said:
JINGO said:
Nothing like this goes on in the Russian army they are too busy organising the institutional rape of the latest batch of conscripts.
Rapes in the ranks of Russian army is something exceptional.

And situation in the British army I believe is quite different. Are rapes a problem in HM armed forced? I believe that no. Let's look at NATO countries - France, Germany, Italy, Spain... There is no such problem.

So why rapes is a problem in the US army? What is the cause?
Amusing that the first we hear of these MANY alledged atrocities is from some obscure website via KGB res. This all in the USA, with the most invasive and open press in the world, who's rights are defended by statutes of law.

Russian press on the other hand.......
 
#12
BIPOLAR77 said:
what is the cause in any civilised society?
But do you think that 1 in 3 women is raped in any civiised society?

If the interviewed women would work in a bank then even in the case of attempt there would be a tough reaction.

As for US army then frequently there is no punishment at all or it is symbolic.
 
#13
Pinch of salt required for this somewhat fishy affair methinks.
 
#14
stinker said:
KGB_resident said:
JINGO said:
Nothing like this goes on in the Russian army they are too busy organising the institutional rape of the latest batch of conscripts.
Rapes in the ranks of Russian army is something exceptional.

And situation in the British army I believe is quite different. Are rapes a problem in HM armed forced? I believe that no. Let's look at NATO countries - France, Germany, Italy, Spain... There is no such problem.

So why rapes is a problem in the US army? What is the cause?
Amusing that the first we hear of these MANY alledged atrocities is from some obscure website via KGB res. This all in the USA, with the most invasive and open press in the world, who's rights are defended by statutes of law.

Russian press on the other hand.......
It is not an obscure website. It is a state-run 'Russia Today' TV that is backed by huge informational and financial resources. Sometimes it highlights something that 'free' American TV prefer not to mention.

By the way, the situation is absolutely symmetric. Western mass media like to speak about facts and events in Russia that are unpleasant for Putin's thieving regime and that Russian press controlled by Putin's gang prefer not to mention.
 
#15
Hang about there a moment, Tovarich. I remember the Soviet propaganda we used to get in the 70's which was also backed by huge informational and financial resources but 90 pc of it was found to be a small kernel of dubious fact blown up out of all proportion. I have no doubt that some wimmin get raped. As indeed some people get murdered. But I would like to see some hard facts and not stuff vomited from sensationalist new agencies. After all, there was a time in UK when the Sun newspaper said that 90 pc of wimmin wanted norks like Samantha Fox. But I doubt that was based on substantial research either.
 
#17
eodmatt said:
Hang about there a moment, Tovarich. I remember the Soviet propaganda we used to get in the 70's which was also backed by huge informational and financial resources but 90 pc of it was found to be a small kernel of dubious fact blown up out of all proportion. I have no doubt that some wimmin get raped. As indeed some people get murdered. But I would like to see some hard facts...
Well, as I have said it is not a new problem.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-oe-harman31mar31,0,3129956.story

The stories are shocking in their simplicity and brutality: A female military recruit is pinned down at knifepoint and raped repeatedly in her own barracks. Her attackers hid their faces but she identified them by their uniforms; they were her fellow soldiers. During a routine gynecological exam, a female soldier is attacked and raped by her military physician. Yet another young soldier, still adapting to life in a war zone, is raped by her commanding officer. Afraid for her standing in her unit, she feels she has nowhere to turn.

These are true stories, and, sadly, not isolated incidents. Women serving in the U.S. military are more likely to be raped by a fellow soldier than killed by enemy fire in Iraq.

The scope of the problem was brought into acute focus for me during a visit to the West Los Angeles VA Healthcare Center, where I met with female veterans and their doctors. My jaw dropped when the doctors told me that 41% of female veterans seen at the clinic say they were victims of sexual assault while in the military, and 29% report being raped during their military service.
...
According to DOD statistics, only 181 out of 2,212 subjects investigated for sexual assault in 2007, including 1,259 reports of rape, were referred to courts-martial, the equivalent of a criminal prosecution in the military. Another 218 were handled via nonpunitive administrative action or discharge, and 201 subjects were disciplined through "nonjudicial punishment," which means they may have been confined to quarters, assigned extra duty or received a similar slap on the wrist. In nearly half of the cases investigated, the chain of command took no action; more than a third of the time, that was because of "insufficient evidence."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k_0b9hvIjc
 
#18
Aha, this latest guff is somewhat akin to the stories of Russian baby eating soldiers of the Soviet army. More salt, Vicar?
 
#19
KGB_resident said:
Rapes in the ranks of Russian army is something exceptional.

And situation in the British army I believe is quite different. Are rapes a problem in HM armed forced? I believe that no. Let's look at NATO countries - France, Germany, Italy, Spain... There is no such problem.

So why rapes is a problem in the US army? What is the cause?
Maybe start anew. Could you show me the source data for all those claims, please. They sound terribly scientific so there must be a comparative study of sexual assaults in NATO and Russian militaries somewhere.
Thanks awfully.
 
#20
para_medic said:
KGB_resident said:
Rapes in the ranks of Russian army is something exceptional.

And situation in the British army I believe is quite different. Are rapes a problem in HM armed forced? I believe that no. Let's look at NATO countries - France, Germany, Italy, Spain... There is no such problem.

So why rapes is a problem in the US army? What is the cause?
Maybe start anew. Could you show me the source data for all those claims, please. They sound terribly scientific so there must be a comparative study of sexual assaults in NATO and Russian militaries somewhere.
Thanks awfully.
Read my previous post mate.
 

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