No jumps for Paras as MoD cuts £1bn

#2
Look, let's be sensible. There's no other way of funding our social outreach to Africa, Bangladesh and the newer members of the EU. What's more important? Our identity, culture and national security, or the on-message message which Nu Lab and its' viral progenitors wish to see like engraved on their monuments?
 
#3
I have worked out TB's (it's a disease that sneaks up on you) cunning plan.
Let's be nice to all our enemies miles away. When they all calm down we can just attack the closer ones by driving there.
 
#4
Well, if they're looking to cut costs, then not deploying units operationally helps. An even better way is to get rid of the regiments entirely so they can't even be deployed. An even better way is not to have an Army so no one can even think of using it. Better yet, get rid of the NHS and the dole. Get rid of council housing, get rid of the police and get rid of anything else that people might consider using. Then the government will have plenty of money to spend on getting more civil servants and bean counters.

Honestly. Only from the MOD could you get something like the Parachute Regiment not being allowed to train with parachutes. Next we'll be hearing that the navy woun't be allowed to use their ships due to a lack of fuel, oh wait already happened. Of course the RAF are happy cos they're still getting their Typhoons.
 
#5
well if that is the case you might as well tell the REMe not to demand a spare for the the vehicle until it is just about to be sent out on ex/ops/butty run
 
#7
I cannot help feeling that there will have to be 'some' parachute training.Maybe the French will help out??????
 
#8
Correct me if I'm wrong but we seem to be in a worse mess now than we were in the late 70s under the last Labour government.

In those days we had a navy with big carriers and fast jets; paratroopers busy paratrooping; no widespread hospital closures; NHS dentists and opticians; kids who could read by the age of 11 etc, etc, etc.

Do you think Gordo will realise that socialism doesn't work before he is booted out of office at the next election?
 
#10
Was told about this by a grown up last year, it's such a shame.

At present we have the best airborne forces in the world, now we'll have the best penguins in the world.

It's got to damage their reputation, how can you have paras that don't jump, even if it is just a test of courage and not something usefull operationally anymore.

Even if they award wings for the baloon jump it must be a hell of a demotivation to anyone attempting P coy.
 
#11
Well what a shock, stabbed in the back from those in downing st in 1 foul swoop whatever recruitment gain from the recent stint in AFgan has given them it's lost overnight so within the next few years what will make the paras more inviting than a local unit? no mention of cutting back on the civil service dross in the MOD that tie up much more funds no they have employer rights :x . However it would be an interesting one should a serving para take the MoD to an employment tribunrial due to change of job role and loss of pay should they lose their jump money
 
#12
Ancient_Mariner said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but we seem to be in a worse mess now than we were in the late 70s under the last Labour government.

In those days we had a navy with big carriers and fast jets; paratroopers busy paratrooping; no widespread hospital closures; NHS dentists and opticians; kids who could read by the age of 11 etc, etc, etc.

Do you think Gordo will realise that socialism doesn't work before he is booted out of office at the next election?
The worst part is that the general public is so indiferent these days that they don't see the country going to the dogs, there too busy reading Hello and watching big brother.

at least in the seventies people cared that the country was heading down the sh!tter.

instead of a winter of discontent, we'll have a winter of "sod it corries on and I'm already 10k in debt so who gives a f**k what happens, I'll just bury my head in the sand and eat pies"
 
#13
Jumping out of planes is what makes the parachute regiment the parachute regiment. It's their identity, their pride, what makes them the soldiers that they are.

And does it even cost that much!? What the FCUK.
 

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#14
Nice to know that the Bliar & his Godless communist horde really appreciate the sacrifices HM Abn forces have made on their behalf.
Is he frightened of a Brit (ie successful) version of 1REP's putsch ?

Let's see, jump pay x four years x troops: £ 145.- x 48 x 2500 = £ 17,400,000.-
The other £ 82,600,000.- must be the Log Sp, mainly the A/C, fuel, maintainance, & salaries of the ground and aircrews concerned.
Looks like there will be a kakhuisvol of Crabs being made redundant for four years.

So, for a some loose change Para Reg loses recruitment which has a direct bearing on the Gun Club's recruiting too.
They just don't think things through, do they ?
 
#15
Time to jump a little further East then. How many chalks/sticks/exits can you make out of an IL-76?
 
#16
From what I was told, it was purely a lack of servicable aircraft , I suppose at a time when our RAF is needed more than ever someone has decided that jumping out of a plane for nothing more than tradition and a demonstration of courage is just not practical.

You can kind of see their point, but how did it get to this, why do we have such a lack of aircraft, at a time when our armed forces are being asked to do more than they have for decades, why is this government dismantling merging and generally f**king with our best infantry regiments, it's absolutly insane.
 
#17
Ancient_Mariner said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but we seem to be in a worse mess now than we were in the late 70s under the last Labour government. In those days we had a navy with big carriers and fast jets; paratroopers busy paratrooping; no widespread hospital closures; NHS dentists and opticians; kids who could read by the age of 11 etc, etc, etc.
S'funny you should say that, but I was having exactly the same (one-way) conversation last night down t'pub. Yes, we were better geared up for both power projection and defence then than we are now - though there will be some who'll disagree wholeheartedly.
 
#18
One unintended consequence could be a boost for Royal Marine recruitment, because if you are a young lad intent of joining, would you want to go through the sh1t of P-Company (surely to be renamed Penguin Company!) and never jump, therefore always being treated as a second class citizen by "real paras" when instead you could be a proper Bootie?

Also, who really believes that after 4 years PM Brown would say, okay, lets spend all that money again, or would he say "Well you have managed OK without jumping..." If that is the plan then the MOD should have the balls to be honest.
 
#19
Well as there seems to be a Pole under every floorboard, we could do no worse than buy or lease a squadron of An26s off 'em and offer a nice transfer initiative from the Polskie Air Force to the RAF for crews and techies. They are NATO now after all, and it worked pretty well in 1940.
 

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#20
Why?

Take away a Soldiers identity and you remove his bond. Its like breaking up a family and sending them into care. You just cannot have a Airborne Brigade that has no Para trained Para's and only 4 or 5 serviceable SH. This is criminal and the Government should be held responsible.

Although I am part of the Brigade I am not para trained as I like to arrive in a certain panache and style but I did hear a tune the other day that means so much in this thread. Its by a group called "Colony 5" whom were inspired by the Band of Brothers series. Anyhow here are the words:

We few, we happy few,
we band of brothers.
Within the crew the impatience grew,
we said farewell to our mothers.

Falling silently through the air,
like deadly snowflakes.
We are here because we care.
for humanity’s sakes.

This is the night of nights,
to end the last resistance,
to end the fight of fights.
We are here to make a difference.

Avenging angels with parachutes as wings
it’s time to make the artillery sing
A million men, that must suffice,
the game is afoot, we’ve cast the dice.
Those things that are precious are only saved by sacrifice.

This is the night of nights,
to end the last resistance,
to end the fight of fights.
We are here to make a difference.

This is the night of nights,
to end the last resistance,
to end the fight of fights.
We are here to make a difference.


Muttley Out
 
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