No 14 Officer Cadet Battalion

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  1. Bad CO

    Bad CO LE Admin Reviews Editor Gallery Guru

    I don't normally post emails like this but thought I'd make an exception given the likely age of the sender:

    Anyone want to offer any thoughts?
     
  2. Indeed Bad CO! For one, I imagine well safe on either PERSEC or OPSEC :)

    This was the new British Army Training Scheme from 1916: (for which include Indian Army of course)

    Here:

    Training to be an officer in the British Army in 1914-1918










    Officer Cadet Battalions​
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    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]Household Brigade Officer Cadet Bn
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    [TD]Bushey, Hertfordshire.
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    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 1 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Newton Ferrers, Devon.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 2 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Pembroke College, Cambridge.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 3 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Bristol.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 4 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Oxford.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 5 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Trinity College, Cambridge.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 6 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Balliol College, Oxford.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 7 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Moore Park, Co Cork.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 8 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Lichfield.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 9 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Gailes, Ayrshire.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 10 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Gailes, Ayrshire.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 11 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Pirbright.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 12 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Newmarket.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 13 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Newmarket.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 14 Bn
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    [TD]Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 15 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Romford.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 16 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Kinmel, Rhyll.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 17 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Kinmel, Rhyll.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 18 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Bath.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 19 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Pirbright.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 20 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Crookham, Aldershot.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]No 21 Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Crookham, Aldershot.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="width: 50%"]Garrison Bn
    [/TD]
    [TD]Jesus College, Cambridge.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD="colspan: 2"]In 1918 No 3 Bn moved to Parkhurst Isle of Wight. No 14 Bn moved to Catterick. The Garrison Bn became the No 22 (Garrison) Bn.
    [/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
  3. brettarider

    brettarider On ROPs

    Nothing left of Gailes training camp now all back to nature have passed the details onto my mate who's got a metal detector to see if he can find anything.
     
  4. I believe that the one in Romford was known as Hare Hall Camp and was run by the Artists' Rifles.

    And the one in Berkhamsted was the Inns of Court OTC. The area where it stood is now known as Kitchener's Field.
     
  5. RP578

    RP578 LE Book Reviewer

    A small detail to add to this. No.14 Bn did indeed move to Catterick in January 1918, where they were joined by another, No.23 Officer Cadet Battalion. No.23 had previously been the Machine Gun Corps Officer Cadet Battalion. A good source for this "British Regiments 1914-1918" by Brig E.A. James ( 1978 ), Samson Books.

    Regarding the background to the OCdt Trg Bns (OTB): They were started in February 1916 in response to both the sharp attrition rate of subalterns and the ad hoc nature with which varying units selected and trained new officers. With the introduction of compulsory military service a few months later, the OTBs became the path toward a Temporary Commission instead of the OTCs.

    Candidates were selected predominantly from the ranks, but also from those who had some form of officer experience or qualification. I don't have the reference to hand, but I did come across a source which detailed that at a certain point Coy OCs were obliged to submit the names of at least two men every month for consideration as potential officers. Naturally, people with Grammar School educations were picked out, as were 'Gentlemen Rankers' who had mobilised in the initial waves as part of Territorial Force units.

    Candidates had to be approved by their CO and kept their current rank throughout their training in case they wash out and be RTU'ed. The course was 4 months and was heavy on leadership, initiative, and self-confidence more than actual tactical or technical training (although there was some of that too). The tone was very much of emulating Sandhurst, Woolwich and Public Schools.

    Note that these were depots that produced temporary commissioned officers and were not in anyway a replacement for the regular military academies. For further reading on this:

    "A Nation in arms: a social study of the British Army in the First World War" By Ian Frederick William Beckett & Keith Simpson (1985)
    "Six Weeks: The Short and Gallant Life of the British Officer in the First World War: The Life and Death of the British Officer in the First World War" by John Lewis-Stempel Page (2011)
     
  6. Nothing to add on OCB but I think if he was commissioned as Unattached List Indian Army he would have served for a period with a British regiment before eventually joining an Indian regiment - but not my specialist subject.
     
  7. Gents

    Many thanks for the information provided here; my farther has been searching for additional facts for a while.

    FYI, AGS (my grandfather) was appointed to 13th Duke of Connaughts' Lancers (Jun 19, Allahabad & Oct 19, Kohat) and then 1st Batt 69th Punjabis regimental depot (attached Apr 20, Ferozepore-Waziristan) before leaving the Indian Army List (Apr 23) for pastures green in NZ. He was proficient in Hindustani, qualified at the School of Musketry, and an officiating Quarter Master to the 2nd Punjab Regt.

    If anyone can suggest a way of obtaining any remaining service records from these units it would be gratefully received.

    PS. I often thought that I had a more comfortable deal, than AGS on his horse, when I was navigating over the same area in my Hercules through 2001 and 2002.