NKET/psy ops

#1
Hi

I've been a member here for a while, but haven't posted that much. I'm looking at mobilising on op HERRICK 15 (I'm TA), and am being put on an NKET (psy ops) course by my unit, with the view do doing that role on tour. The thing is, I don't actually know anything about the role or what it entails. If anyone has any experience or knowledge about what the job involves, I'd be really grateful for some information.

If you don't want to post it on an open forum, please PM me.

Thanks
 
#6
I think nket means non-kinetic operations; ones that don't necessarily require shooting stuff. Standing by for correction as I'm not in the Int Corps.
 
#7
I'd wait out, or alternatively get your CoC to get details from 15 POG. You will (I hope) get nothing more than idle speculation by these means. Could be fun though.
 
#11
Just for information NKET teams do a little more than just PSYOPS.

Though it is highly likely that you won't be trained to cover all of the activities carried out by your units NKET, but someone will!
 
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swampmonster

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#12
for H14 BB...H15 only started last month and the NKET lads are on the weekends phase at the moment........
 

The_Duke

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#13
NKET is not Psyops, although Psyops may form a part of an influence campaign.

Influence is a key part of operational planning and battlegroups will have a dedicated influence team, often consisting of an influence officer and 2ic within the headquarters and coy level influence cells (manpower permitting). Influence is central to every operation conducted, even down to highly kinetic ones. That is one reason why the term NKET is falling out of favour, as it suggests they are two entirely different lines of operation rather than complementary lines within all operations. It is not all about pencils for schools and leaflets as some seem to think.

Done well it is a life saver for our troops and a real force multiplier, so don't be surprised if your units plan for you to do influence is overturned by your receiving unit. The CO is likely to have identified his influence team early on, and may not rely on unknown entities turning up from the TA. Several who deployed on H13 expecting to do NKET/influence have ended up watchkeeping or other jobs.
 
#14
for H14 BB...H15 only started last month and the NKET lads are on the weekends phase at the moment........
I'm not actually sure what this post means.

I know for a fact that TA Infantry have been training for H15 for a good six months.

I'm somewhat astonished that a bloke who does not even know what NKET is has actually been put forward by his COC for training in that area.

I know of some reasonably aware TA blokes that are gagging to get involved with NKET for H15 but the places already seem to be taken by Regulars.
 

The_Duke

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#15
B_B, see above for reasons why.

Influence is not the ginger step child afterthought it was percieved as a few years ago - it is now an appointment which can be a key factor for success in an AO, and therefore a big career step for the right officer/NCO. Therefore out goes the enthusiastic amateur who was filling the gap that the regulars were not that fussed about, in steps the right person picked for the job well in advance of the tour. Given the choice of someone the CO has known for years and is ready to train from day one or an unknown entity rocking up halfway through MST, which would you go for?
 
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swampmonster

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#16
So why is the NKET training going on just now at Warcop for Herrick 15...? The Weekend phases for Mob Trg for IR's for my unit only started in Jan I did not know other units started during the build up for Herrick 14 for 15....My mistake.
Duke you are of course correct many SNCOs did deploy as watchkeepers, but however most have drifted into other roles and tasks as this tour got underway in ernest.
If a Officer/SNCO wishes to avoid the Watchkeeping task why not go for the Cimic courses at Luggershall with MSST? or try and get a post with the Advisor Grp, depends on your trade and rank of course and slots open.

Just a thought.

SM
 

The_Duke

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#17
Many were down as watchkeepers, and not all of them could do that to the standard required so ended up doing other roles to which they were more suited. Some who expected to do influence are now watchkeeping etc, etc. People's roles were adjusted to the level they were capable of operating at, and according to which jobs needed filling.

Some stepped up, others down a step or two from what they were expecting. Few are doing influence.
 
#18
Given the choice of someone the CO has known for years and is ready to train from day one or an unknown entity rocking up halfway through MST, which would you go for?
Me, obviously.... ( thanks for the explanation, Your Grace. Pal of mine who has just done a tour as IO thinks I'd be good at it. The fool... )
 
#19
Having met you before B_B, I think you would be good at the job and certainly much better than some who do it at the moment.

Whilst the Duke makes a good point about CO's going for the known quantity when it comes to looking for a person thats inherently suited to lead IA at the unit/sub unit level, this is where the TA soldier potentially comes into their own, subject to their background and life experience.
 

The_Duke

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#20
Having met you before B_B, I think you would be good at the job and certainly much better than some who do it at the moment.

Whilst the Duke makes a good point about CO's going for the known quantity when it comes to looking for a person thats inherently suited to lead IA at the unit/sub unit level, this is where the TA soldier potentially comes into their own, subject to their background and life experience.
One of the best influence officers in theatre at the moment is TA, but he is a man with great experience in this specialisation and the medals to prove it. I am not suggesting that the TA are not capable of it, merely that it is not the non-job it was seen to be a while ago which COs were happy to put any random TA officer/SNCO into. Nor is it CIMIC, where the cross over between civilian life and military life made the TA candidate a potential front runner.

Everyone out on the ground has an impact on influence, but the person leading the team (and key team members) are going to be people the CO trusts to control one of the most important spheres of operation. That trust will be difficult to build up unless they join the receiving unit very early in the MST cycle, or the CO is willing to take a leap of faith and hope that the TA person he gets is up to the mark. It is not the quality of some of the potential TA candidates that counts, it is the trust the CO is willing to put in them based on a report from their TA unit (and we know some TA units lie about the capability of their soldiers like a cheap NAAFI watch, RTMC proves this on a regular basis).

Edited to add: This probably appears to be me trying to put a downer on those that are aiming for this job, or saying they are not up to it. That is not my intention at all. If you can get onto an influence team you will probably find it one of the more interesting and worthwhile jobs available to a TA officer or NCO, and you should definately go for it. I am just trying to manage expectations as there are alot of people who had been told that they would be doing influence who are now doing watchkeeping or G4 support. Stay flexible.
 

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